Spoilers Loki season one discussion thread

[Ovation]

Enjoyed the show and the finale. But this show demonstrates what every story with time travel demonstrates:

No time travel story withstands close scrutiny. Best to just sit back, take the storyteller at face value regarding time travel “rules”, and enjoy the ride.

 

[Noname Given]

Enjoyed the show and the finale. But this show demonstrates what every story with time travel demonstrates:

No time travel story withstands close scrutiny. Best to just sit back, take the storyteller at face value regarding time travel “rules”, and enjoy the ride.

Yeah...For the Avengers 'Endgame' - that's how time travel worked in the 'Sacred Timeline'...said 'Sacred Timeline' is now no more, so...

 

[Turtletrekker]

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[LaxScrutiny]

I loved the joke about "Can you imagine falling in love with yourself?" "I can."

Jeeze. Who the hell else would I fall in love with?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

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Brilliant! I've been awaiting for that episode and it did not disappoint!

 

[JD]

Infinity War and Endgame were very heavily guarded in order to prevent spoilers leaking. Indeed, very few people involved in the movie even had access to a full script, and most of the actors only had the script pages for the scenes they were in. And even then, unless they had dialogue directly related to it, a good many of the actors at Tony Stark's funeral only knew they were filming a scene where they were supposed to be sad. Hell, I remember between the two movies, Ross Marquand (who played Red Skull) did and interview where he was asked if he had scenes in Endgame, and he honestly and legitimately didn't know.

In light of how little those directly involved in the movies actually knew about them, it's not surprising at all no one bothered to tell the Agents of SHIELD production team any indication of what was in store.

Most of the MCU films have been tinkered with (IE re-edited, the occasional scene reshoot,etc.) Sometimes just a couple of weeks before release. They also will occasionally rewrite or change big parts of the script while shooting it

Given all that it's kind of hard to lock something in months ahead of time. Plus as some others have set above, The more people that see or are informed about certain script elements, The more likely it is something will leaks of the public that they want to keep close to the vest.

I understand all this, but if they wanted to keep up with the idea that AOS is part of the same universe as the movies, they probably could have found away to give the AOS writers the bare minimum of info to make it fit better.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

I think the AOS writers, if they had wanted too, could have just watched the MCU movies and kept the AOS timeline a year or so behind. Apparently at some point everyone stopped caring about making the effort and just accepted it as a "variant".

 

[dupersuper]

I think the AOS writers, if they had wanted too, could have just watched the MCU movies and kept the AOS timeline a year or so behind. Apparently at some point everyone stopped caring about making the effort and just accepted it as a "variant".

Not me!

 

[Guy Gardener]

I think the AOS writers, if they had wanted too, could have just watched the MCU movies and kept the AOS timeline a year or so behind. Apparently at some point everyone stopped caring about making the effort and just accepted it as a "variant".

Been rewatching AOS over the last week.

Up to s05e09.

Daisy destroyed the world in 2018.

Season 4 was going on about the Sokovia accords.

They made a big deal about Yoyo signing them and coming into the light,. and several references to Ultron in relation to ADA, the Fembot Fitz made not to have sex with.

Season 5 has been in the future, so there's nothing to connect with, although Fitz was locked in a cell on an army base for half of 2018 trying to fathom where his friends went, before he got chill.

 

[jaime]

Yeah...For the Avengers 'Endgame' - that's how time travel worked in the 'Sacred Timeline'...said 'Sacred Timeline' is now no more, so...

I prefer to see it as Loki needed to destroy the sacred timeline to let the avengers change the timeline

 

[Turtletrekker]

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[The Nth Doctor]

Best part: "You know, this never would have happened if Tony Stark had just let Hulk on the elevator. He really is responsible for every bad thing in this universe!"

 

[Starkers]

That's great.

 

[tomalak301]

Just finished watching Loki and It was good, but I left the finale kind of confused. I'm not a comic reader, but I have heard (In passing) of Kang the Conquorer. I guess this series was what created the Marvel version of the Multiverse? I did like the stuff between Loki and Selvie (What makes them who they are, which is in a way what the first season was all about) but I guess I need some time to process everything because there was a lot of exposition.

I'm also trying to see if what happened here had an impact on what I saw at the end of Spider-Man No Way Home and the new Dr. Strange movie and I find myself overthinking it.

 

[Skywalker]

The multiverse already existed, He Who Remains had just isolated the MCU from the rest of it to spare it (and protect himself) from anymore Kang variants from other universes. But after He Who Remains died, the MCU started to re-merge with the rest of the multiverse because he was the one who was maintaining its isolation.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's not about pruning timelines, as much as it is about killing Kangs.

The, thing is, everytime you kill Kang's daddy, that's Mr Fantastic's daddy too.

The reason he has to destroy timelines is that just because Kang invents Time Travel First, it doesn't mean that some one else isn't going to invent time travel second, or even just "find" it.

 

[tomalak301]

The multiverse already existed, He Who Remains had just isolated the MCU from the rest of it to spare it (and protect himself) from anymore Kang variants from other universes. But after He Who Remains died, the MCU started to re-merge with the rest of the multiverse because he was the one who was maintaining its isolation.

So is this like the Anti-Crisis on Infinite Earths? That makes a little more sense.

 

[Skywalker]

So is this like the Anti-Crisis on Infinite Earths? That makes a little more sense.

Yeah, it's more like a Crisis of Infinite Earths.

 

[Noname Given]

The multiverse already existed, He Who Remains had just isolated the MCU from the rest of it to spare it (and protect himself) from anymore Kang variants from other universes. But after He Who Remains died, the MCU started to re-merge with the rest of the multiverse because he was the one who was maintaining its isolation.

But is the he who remains incarnation pre or post Immortus?

(I originally thought it was just the immortus version of Kang the Conqueror but now I'm not so sure.)

 

[Guy Gardener]

I was watching the pilot of Posh Nosh.

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Early 2000s satire of uppercrust foodies staring Richard E. Grant.

My wife asks "Who's that?"

"In 20 years" I say "That is going to be Loki."

She replies "Oh, Tom Hiddleson."