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Spoilers Loki season one discussion thread

Coming back to Loki...(What?! This is the Loki thread?!)...

The second half of the score is out today. I've been listening to the first half almost nonstop since the finale and it's so damn beautiful. Listening to the second half right now.
The score was awesome. For some reason, I kept forgetting how good the music was every week, so each time I heard the first few notes of each ep I was happy all over again:D
 
This is my favourite description of Comic Kang the Conqueror I've ever read
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It really is a great opportunity for Majors to stretch his talents and be involved in a variety of movies as different versions of the character. There are so many different ways he could appear in seemingly unrelated stories.

As for the second season of Loki--I'd like to see this series become a continuing story that links tangentially to the movies and develops its own thing. There are so many directions they could go with it, including making it the MCU version of the Exiles.
Yeah, that was one of things I became most excited about this show after it introduced the concept of variants, but especially once it was clear that Kang was a large component of that storytelling. The Kang we'll see in Quantumania will undoubtedly be quite different from one we saw in Loki (which I think some people who complained about Majors' performance seem to miss) and the next time he appears on Loki, it'll probably be a different version. I can't wait to see all of the different kind of performances Majors will bring to the table.

The score was awesome. For some reason, I kept forgetting how good the music was every week, so each time I heard the first few notes of each ep I was happy all over again:D
Same for me! Like I said, I've been listening to the first half a lot since the finale and it keeps getting better with each listen. I can already tell the same will be true for the second half.

This is my favourite description of Comic Kang the Conqueror I've ever read
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Brilliant! :guffaw:
 
That has always felt a bit strange to me, I understand being cautious about spoilers, but you'd think they would at least tell the writers of the show that is supposed to take place in the world as the movies what is going on with the next movies.
Agents of SHIELD was produced by an entirely separate division of Marvel. There were closer ties in its first couple of seasons, but that changed once Disney spun off Marvel Studios on its own in 2015.
 
In the finale, one of the TVA enforcers that Loki runs past at the end is Casey from the start of the season, the desk jockey with the cart, and the desk drawer full of infinity stones. I didn't notice that on my first watch.
 
In the finale, one of the TVA enforcers that Loki runs past at the end is Casey from the start of the season, the desk jockey with the cart, and the desk drawer full of infinity stones. I didn't notice that on my first watch.
Between Loki, Star Trek lower decks, and a brief spot in Mandalorian season 1, Eugene Cordero has a genre Trifecta under his belt.
 
In the finale, one of the TVA enforcers that Loki runs past at the end is Casey from the start of the season, the desk jockey with the cart, and the desk drawer full of infinity stones. I didn't notice that on my first watch.
Yeah, I mentioned that on Monday. :p

Between Loki, Star Trek lower decks, and a brief spot in Mandalorian season 1, Eugene Cordero has a genre Trifecta under his belt.
Yup, that was commented on during the Lower Decks panel. :D

Now he just needs to add Doctor Who!
 
Agents of SHIELD was produced by an entirely separate division of Marvel. There were closer ties in its first couple of seasons, but that changed once Disney spun off Marvel Studios on its own in 2015.
I know, but you'd still think they'd at least want to keep them aware of the big world changing things like Infinity War & Endgame since it's technically still supposed to be in the same world.
Hell, even with the tie-in books, they let the authors read their scripts before the movie or shows come out. Some of the authors of the Star Trek books post over in the Trek Literature section, and I believe ones who've written for the current shows were able to read a least a couple scripts early, so they were consistent with where the shows were going to be going.
You'd think Marvel Studios people could have at least let the TV people know the broad strokes of where they were going, so they could work it into their shows.
 
Infinity War and Endgame were very heavily guarded in order to prevent spoilers leaking. Indeed, very few people involved in the movie even had access to a full script, and most of the actors only had the script pages for the scenes they were in. And even then, unless they had dialogue directly related to it, a good many of the actors at Tony Stark's funeral only knew they were filming a scene where they were supposed to be sad. Hell, I remember between the two movies, Ross Marquand (who played Red Skull) did and interview where he was asked if he had scenes in Endgame, and he honestly and legitimately didn't know.

In light of how little those directly involved in the movies actually knew about them, it's not surprising at all no one bothered to tell the Agents of SHIELD production team any indication of what was in store.
 
I know, but you'd still think they'd at least want to keep them aware of the big world changing things like Infinity War & Endgame since it's technically still supposed to be in the same world.
Hell, even with the tie-in books, they let the authors read their scripts before the movie or shows come out. Some of the authors of the Star Trek books post over in the Trek Literature section, and I believe ones who've written for the current shows were able to read a least a couple scripts early, so they were consistent with where the shows were going to be going.
You'd think Marvel Studios people could have at least let the TV people know the broad strokes of where they were going, so they could work it into their shows.
Most of the MCU films have been tinkered with (IE re-edited, the occasional scene reshoot,etc.) Sometimes just a couple of weeks before release. They also will occasionally rewrite or change big parts of the script while shooting it

Given all that it's kind of hard to lock something in months ahead of time. Plus as some others have set above, The more people that see or are informed about certain script elements, The more likely it is something will leaks of the public that they want to keep close to the vest.
 
All the AoS writers needed to know was that there was a "Blip" and people would be gone for five years before being brought back in Endgame. Season 6 could have adjusted to that scenario and it might have played into their story pretty well. Season 7 could have remained unchanged.
 
Five years was a big deal. They could have thought time travel would have reset it right away. I don't think it was until season 7 that they understood which theory of time travel was being used.
 
Five years was a big deal. They could have thought time travel would have reset it right away. I don't think it was until season 7 that they understood which theory of time travel was being used.

They talked about quantum certainty as early as season 3, Fitz’s whole thing about once the future is observed it’s locked in, and it became a major plot point in season 5.
 
Five years was a big deal. They could have thought time travel would have reset it right away. I don't think it was until season 7 that they understood which theory of time travel was being used.

That is the sticking point, probably. Even though it was deducible publicly that there would be a five-year jump in the movie pretty early (recasting Cassie being the giveaway, IIRC), the AOS team would have no idea whether or not the events of the five year flash-forward would unhappen or not, so they couldn't just proceed as if the snap happened because they might end up left in the lurch if the "Thanos Wins" timeline had been completely erased, and they'd either have to continue the series while fans knew everything we were seeing wouldn't "really" have happened that way in the final timeline, or do some kind of midway-reset themselves lagging behind Endgame. And that's assuming they weren't specifically told by the Marvel higher-ups to not show the Snap, like how they were jerked around on whether or not they could use MODOK.

Of course, the way it turned out, the movie side could've just said "Act like it'll stick, it'll be fine, trust us, we aren't going to screw you on this" and everything would've worked great, and I wouldn't have spent the last three seasons of the show waiting for people to start dissolving at the most dramatic moment possible.

There are still any number of ways AOS could be patched-in, ranging from "The Snap happened off-screen" to my old favorite, "Plenty of weird things happen in New York, and Thanos had technically been on his way to attack Earth since Avengers 1, so the episodes that aired around Infinity War actually took place much earlier, and the Snap happened after the show's main run."
 
Actually, thinking about it that way, Thanos is never mentioned in Season 5. All that they say is something is happening in New York--that could really be anything. In the comics, NY gets torn apart every summer.
 
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