That was one of my favorite Timeless episodes. I did some reading up on Holmes after that and man oh man, that guy AND the hotel were frightening.
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That was one of my favorite Timeless episodes. I did some reading up on Holmes after that and man oh man, that guy AND the hotel were frightening.
"Nowadays?" Come on. People have been analyzing and critiquing fiction for as long as there has been fiction. People do it professionally and as a field of scholarship. Fiction and art are not merely meant to be passively absorbed with your brain turned off, they're meant to be thought about and actively engaged with.
Why do people have this bizarre need to believe that anything they don't like was only invented recently? Why is it so hard to accept that the past was no better than the present?
Sorry; did you just claim that critical thought is a new creation?
I just watch shows to escape for a moment. It always annoyed me when someone starts pointing out problems with the plot, FX, etc.
And it never occurred to you that people in the past did that too? And that other people have the right to engage with fiction differently than you do?
Once you actually start creating for a living (or even a hobby), it's hard not to see the seams on these things.
It's funny. I have been doing video productions for 40+ years and I only notice errors in my own productions!
I think it's funny that everyone is dissecting the statement that people nowadays can't enjoy a show without dissecting it.
I also find it funny that the guy saying can't we just enjoy the show without picking it apart has a carrot person picture from The Great Vegetable Rebellion.
I also find it funny that the guy saying can't we just enjoy the show without picking it apart has a carrot person picture from The Great Vegetable Rebellion.
All and all, can't we just enjoy things anymore?
Says the nightmare with a pumpkin for a head.
Says the nightmare with a pumpkin for a head.
Damn, I think this was my favorite episode so far this season.
Loved the Loki and Silvie's conversation at the automat.
Damn, what Renslayer and Miss Minutes did to Dox, and her people was pretty nasty, and Miss Minutes enjoyed it waaaaaaayyyyy to much.
Holy shit, that ending! I want it to be next Thursday NOW!
Loved the Loki and Silvie's conversation at the automat.
Damn, what Renslayer and Miss Minutes did to Dox, and her people was pretty nasty, and Miss Minutes enjoyed it waaaaaaayyyyy to much.
Holy shit, that ending! I want it to be next Thursday NOW!
Miss Minutes is downright sadistic and homicidal. Also, I don't think she's working for anyone but herself.
Yeah, this week's was excellent.
Those poor Lettuces...the carnage was horrific...ranch dressing everywhere...and the sprigs of parsely...I can still hear the screaming...oh, I just can't...
Whoa...now shit's gettin' real...
Plus, I think she is secretly Posting, here in this very Thread!
Well.
That's not what I expected to happen.
Would be one hell of a thing if the show just simply ended.
And the rest of the MCU.
Of course that won't happen but, man, that would be nihilistic as hell.
I imagine some kind of major reset will happen. In fact, I suspected something might be awry considering all of the casual killing and pruning...including of Renslayer.
With everything that's going on with Victor's destiny, Renslayer's origins, and Loki's time-hopping, the whole thing is a wonderful entangled mess and I do wonder if it will all make sense in the end. I hope it does even if doesn't seem clear at the moment.
But regardless of how it plays out, I'm having one of hell of a time watching it all play out. The characters, the rapport, the humor, the nerdiness, the maybe-not-so-deep philosophical musings, and, of course, Miss Mintues' sadistic glee, all of it is so enjoyable for me.
Lastly, it was a small moment, but I loved seeing three nerds of color work out the scientific problems of the MacGuffin device.
That's not what I expected to happen.
Would be one hell of a thing if the show just simply ended.
And the rest of the MCU.
Of course that won't happen but, man, that would be nihilistic as hell.
I imagine some kind of major reset will happen. In fact, I suspected something might be awry considering all of the casual killing and pruning...including of Renslayer.
With everything that's going on with Victor's destiny, Renslayer's origins, and Loki's time-hopping, the whole thing is a wonderful entangled mess and I do wonder if it will all make sense in the end. I hope it does even if doesn't seem clear at the moment.
But regardless of how it plays out, I'm having one of hell of a time watching it all play out. The characters, the rapport, the humor, the nerdiness, the maybe-not-so-deep philosophical musings, and, of course, Miss Mintues' sadistic glee, all of it is so enjoyable for me.
Lastly, it was a small moment, but I loved seeing three nerds of color work out the scientific problems of the MacGuffin device.
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This could either be an incredible episode or a really disappointing one. I think we need the context of the next two episodes to say for sure.
I say this because in the last few minutes, so many of the "antagonists" of the last several episodes were easily dispatched (Renslayer, Miss Minutes, Brad, Dox, etc.) in an anticlimactic manner. It seems like there's only really one of two ways it can go from here:
I also find the whole "ticking clock" emphasis this season when it comes to problem-solving for the TVA to be just...bizarre. They all have little time machines on them! Even presuming they cannot travel back in time to an earlier point at the TVA, they can assuredly like, go back to 100 AD and hang out there for five years before returning, figuring out their next steps. I do like the little nods to non-linear causality (like Timely and Ouroboros both being influenced by one another in a causal loop) - I just wish there was more emphasis on this stuff, and less on the really boring internal squabbles of the TVA.
I say this because in the last few minutes, so many of the "antagonists" of the last several episodes were easily dispatched (Renslayer, Miss Minutes, Brad, Dox, etc.) in an anticlimactic manner. It seems like there's only really one of two ways it can go from here:
- Everyone's dead. There's some sort of "timeline reset" where only Loki knows what's going on, and he has to fix things before they all get destroyed...again. I would strongly prefer we go in this direction, because it would allow for a chance to rise above the petty squabbling that was more or less the trademark of episodes 2-4.
- Everyone in the control room "wakes up" in some kind of other realm where the story goes in a completely different direction. This, IMHO, will signal narrative failure, because everything that happened in the first four episodes was more or less a waste of time, and the effective start of an entire new season arc (complete with a new antagonist).
I also find the whole "ticking clock" emphasis this season when it comes to problem-solving for the TVA to be just...bizarre. They all have little time machines on them! Even presuming they cannot travel back in time to an earlier point at the TVA, they can assuredly like, go back to 100 AD and hang out there for five years before returning, figuring out their next steps. I do like the little nods to non-linear causality (like Timely and Ouroboros both being influenced by one another in a causal loop) - I just wish there was more emphasis on this stuff, and less on the really boring internal squabbles of the TVA.
Just wNted to drop this link real quick before i leave out
While i can see why some wrre made uncomfortable by her tweets, if this article posted the "worst" of her tweets, then i don't understand why they were deemed worthy of recasting her
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-cul...oxtown-recasts-voice-actor-israel-hamas-posts
While i can see why some wrre made uncomfortable by her tweets, if this article posted the "worst" of her tweets, then i don't understand why they were deemed worthy of recasting her
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-cul...oxtown-recasts-voice-actor-israel-hamas-posts
This was easily the most effective episode so far, with strong character interactions and superb direction. The choice to focus only on Brad's extended reaction to what was happening to Dox and the others, and on B-15's horror at discovering it, was extremely potent.
Still, on an overall conceptual level, I do still find the story arc underwhelming. I mean, we finally get the answers to the mystery of what Loki saw in the future in episode 1, and... so what? There's no big revelation, just Sylvie stuck in an elevator, Loki pruning himself, and the phone call (which happened out of sequence, since the phone should've been ringing before the pruning) just being Ouroboros checking in. It was set up as this big mystery, but it's all pretty meh, just an incidental moment in the middle of a bunch of other stuff. Really anticlimactic.
And yeah, I think some kind of reset where the dead characters are alive again is inevitable. Really, I have to wonder if the destruction of the Loom is that bad. Won't it just mean that timelines will evolve naturally? Maybe the characters will just wake up in their own variants and Mobius will learn who he was before. Though I don't know how or why they'd be brought back together.
I had the same reaction. When O.B. said it would take a long time to retrofit the gizmo, I expected them to drop him, Casey, and Victor off in the timeline, then pick them up after a few weeks in the timeline and a few seconds in the TVA. Instead, it was just an excuse to let the other characters go have arguments about pie for a few minutes.
Still, on an overall conceptual level, I do still find the story arc underwhelming. I mean, we finally get the answers to the mystery of what Loki saw in the future in episode 1, and... so what? There's no big revelation, just Sylvie stuck in an elevator, Loki pruning himself, and the phone call (which happened out of sequence, since the phone should've been ringing before the pruning) just being Ouroboros checking in. It was set up as this big mystery, but it's all pretty meh, just an incidental moment in the middle of a bunch of other stuff. Really anticlimactic.
And yeah, I think some kind of reset where the dead characters are alive again is inevitable. Really, I have to wonder if the destruction of the Loom is that bad. Won't it just mean that timelines will evolve naturally? Maybe the characters will just wake up in their own variants and Mobius will learn who he was before. Though I don't know how or why they'd be brought back together.
I had the same reaction. When O.B. said it would take a long time to retrofit the gizmo, I expected them to drop him, Casey, and Victor off in the timeline, then pick them up after a few weeks in the timeline and a few seconds in the TVA. Instead, it was just an excuse to let the other characters go have arguments about pie for a few minutes.
I think it was set up to be anticlimatic on purpose, to be honest. Like, they were trying to tie up each and every loose thread from Episodes 1-3 because the complete/total closure of the story was needed to have that last fade to black actually be an effective end to the episode.
I did like they said all the TemPads went down, because otherwise everyone could have just escaped through a time door at the last second. This way, they were all really just trapped, staring down doom.
