Spoilers Loki season 2-- spoilers and discussion

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  1. Commander Troi

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    I was impressed with how easily they were able to bring in OB, it felt quite organic and natural.

    And remember Disney Plus wants to push the end credits into a little box as soon as possible so be suspicious when it doesn't.
     
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    I've learned to make sure to watch the little box carefully when I'm fast forwarding after the episodes are over to make sure I only see credits.
     
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    Agreed. I credit that to the writing and just the natural charm of KHQ.
     
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    Hey guys. I'm a but late to the party but I'm glad to see the response is overall positive
     
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    I meant to post this last week when the interview came out but io9 published this interview with producer Kevin Wright about the show's second season. The following are the parts that stood out the most to me.

    Regarding how Ke Huy Quan was brought on the show:

    io9: I love the new faces we’re seeing in the season, like Ke Huy Quan as Obie. Was that a role that you already had him in mind for because of Everything Everwhere All at Once?

    Wright: It was very lucky because Everything Everywhere All at Once was only at that time playing in L.A. and in New York. It had not gone nationwide and it hadn’t gone anywhere globally, yet—so it was a week away from him about being everywhere. At the behest of our casting director, Sarah Finn, she said, “I think you should cast Ke. I think he’s perfect for this. And if you don’t make an offer by Monday, you’re probably going to lose the chance, because I think he’s about to blow up in a very big way.” So we talked to him, we pitched him the show, we pitched him the character. We shared some of Eric Martin’s script pages, which was the big introduction to Obie. And then that Monday we called in the big guns and Kevin Feige gave him a call and said, “Ke, we really want you to do this. Will you join us in London and start making this?” Very quickly afterwards, he was on a plane to London to start building this. And then obviously we shot the whole thing. The buzz was picking up on Everything Everywhere All at Once—that was happening as we were shooting—and then when we were in post-production, he had won an Academy Award. The timing was crazy.
    How Loki follows Doctor Who's footsteps with new showrunners telling their own stories for the larger tapestry of the show:

    io9: Season one showrunner Kate Herron imagined such a distinct world and mythology. In what ways does this season’s team take what was started from that era of the show into the world-building here?

    Wright: Kate came in and was great because it was like we all were aligned in what we wanted to make. Once we knew Kate was going to handing over the reins, it was like, “All right, well, we got what we need to keep together as much of this team as possible for the continuity of that storytelling, in this world-building.” We felt confident that it was so much of what you love about that world from season one. It came from kind of all these collaborators. These things are such a collaboration; [in] one of my favorite shows, Doctor Who, multiple people are always going to come in and take the franchise for a spin and tell their stories with it. It felt like that was something that we could continue to do here. Between Tom and myself, there was enough interconnectivity that whatever team we surround with it, we were confident we could recapture what people loved.
    As discussed before (I don't think in this thread, but in the MCU thread), Sylvie's motivations and goals for this season now that she's acting with free will finally:

    io9: Taking it back to Loki and Sylvie—in the first season, we had Loki really facing all the different variants of himself and confronting his past as a villain, and dealing with this whole idea of loving himself in many ways. Here we have him kind of back at war with himself in a weird way. What can you share about how you wanted to have that play out with Loki and Sylvie’s relationship this season?

    Wright: It’s certainly a continuation of those stories from season one, and it’s about identity and finding your place in the universe and what role you play in it. I think those things happen on a very surface-level way in season one, because you have to get these people to change so dramatically. You really need to hold that mirror up to Loki and Sylvie. The thing that we talked about with it still feels like, certainly, Loki has not reached his full potential in the MCU, but as a character, he uses magic throughout the MCU. But it’s always for trickery, it’s always for causing mischief, and it just feels like he’s destined for so much more and to be a bigger presence. And Sylvie is still in the early stages of this growth because she’s really never had free will. She goes through a time door, the TVA are going to be popping up unless she’s hiding out in an apocalypse. So this is her first chance at just trying to understand what it even means to live a life.

    So much of the story that we wanted to tell this season was “how can these characters become the best versions of themselves?” And that is a lot about embracing your past, the bad things you’ve done, the good things you’ve done, all of it. You can’t grow without fully embracing the yin and yang of yourself. It’s about the actions you make. I think for a lot of us, you can say you’re about this or you represent this, but it comes down to actually the choices that you make in life. We put Loki and Sylvie through a number of obstacles to really challenge their perceptions of themselves and what they will do.​
     
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    I was curious about how Quan would fit in but he's doing good as O.B. so far
     
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    Watched the first episode and really enjoyed it. Felt like Marvel quality again and that's coming from someone who wasn't all that impressed with the first season, although I place the blame on covid with that one.
     
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    What counts as Marvel quality?
     
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    Which can vary
     
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    So, this morning before work I watched the new episode of Star Trek Lower Decks, which features Eugene Cordero as Rutherford. The story of the episode featured...

    ... the various artificial intelligence characters that have been featured previously on the show, including one that was created by Cordero's character, Rutherford.

    So I definitely got a chuckle when watching tonight's episode of Loki when Cordero's character Casey complained about the fact that they were going to have to "convince a rogue AI to return to work". It just seems to be like that kind of day.

    Symmetry. It's like poetry. It rhymes.
     
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  15. MikHutch

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    I just finished Loki s2e2. Overall it was pretty good. I liked seeing Loki using his powers. Plus referencing his villainous ways
     
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  16. Christopher

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    Now I want pie.
     
  17. MikHutch

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    That key lime pie was way too green. Real klp is yellow-green
     
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    Yeah, I was a little weirded out by how bright green that was.
    This was a great episode.
    The scene with Loki to confess was pretty good, it was obvious it was all Loki and Moebius's plan, but I don't think it was so much about us believing he was really going to do it, as it was about Brad thinking he would.
    Definitely curious to see what Silvie's role in the bigger arc this season is.
    I'm assuming them needing He Who Remain's temporal aura to fix The Loom will be how Victor Timely comes into play.
    Moebius's reason for not wanting to see his life on The Sacred Timeline makes total sense to me.
     
  19. MikHutch

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    Yeah I liked Mobius' conversation with Loki but I still somewhat hope we'll see his old life
     
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    I imagine it involves jet skis..