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I don't think he is addicted to the drug so much as he has become dependent. There is a difference there, however slight that may seem and his father is really stirring the hornets nest up making these threats and forcing his will over Brian.
There will be negative consequences if he tries to go further with this.
There will be negative consequences if he tries to go further with this.
Addiction is not about the withdrawls being too hard to contemplate stopping.
That's the opposite of addiction.
An actual wall that you can't climb over.
(Physical addiction vs. Psychological addiction. Never mind.)
Fear of pain is not love of a drug.
Remember that conversation regular Brain had with NZT Brian about whether to tell Rebecca about her father?
Do the two Brians get along?
NZT is basically temporarily murdering regular Brian by replacing his personality with NZT Brian, and regular Brian doesn't care because it's so fricking embarrassing to be regular.
Selfloathing is not addiction?
Addiction is about being willing (when necessary, although shit has to be bad before it becomes necessary) to sacrifice an unreasonable amount of resources to acquire a negatively disproportionate amount of utility, and be good with that.
Addiction is a long-ass road to Stupid Town.
That's the opposite of addiction.
An actual wall that you can't climb over.
(Physical addiction vs. Psychological addiction. Never mind.)
Fear of pain is not love of a drug.
Remember that conversation regular Brain had with NZT Brian about whether to tell Rebecca about her father?
Do the two Brians get along?
NZT is basically temporarily murdering regular Brian by replacing his personality with NZT Brian, and regular Brian doesn't care because it's so fricking embarrassing to be regular.
Selfloathing is not addiction?
Addiction is about being willing (when necessary, although shit has to be bad before it becomes necessary) to sacrifice an unreasonable amount of resources to acquire a negatively disproportionate amount of utility, and be good with that.
Addiction is a long-ass road to Stupid Town.
Brian's dependent on the shot Eddie provides for him, without the shot he'll die, if he stops taking the pill he dies. And he like most of the people who've taken NZT are indeed addicted to the benefits of the drug. Brian's stuck between a rock and a hard place and Eddie's knows it even better than Brian.
It was a very good ep. too. I had to wonder if Casey just allowed himself to be killed because he clearly could see the bullet coming for him. And we see one more example of why Brian is a better person even without the NZT than most people, he has a better moral center. Still getting rid of Casey solves some problems of any possible relationship between Brian and Rebecca.
I wish they hadn't killed him off so soon. They could have dragged things out a little more and I liked the Dexter reunion.
For starters: I'm really sane guys!
I remember reading this thread and I remember checking the series/movie out. I think(!) I also watched it but I'm not really sure if I really did. That's a bad sign for the quality of the film, is it not? Now writing this more details come to mind, esp. about the rather disappointing end.
One of those movies you watch and totally forget about it within the next two days (a doctor who silence movie so to speak).
Now they have made a series out of it? hhhhm, okay....
I remember reading this thread and I remember checking the series/movie out. I think(!) I also watched it but I'm not really sure if I really did. That's a bad sign for the quality of the film, is it not? Now writing this more details come to mind, esp. about the rather disappointing end.
One of those movies you watch and totally forget about it within the next two days (a doctor who silence movie so to speak).
Now they have made a series out of it? hhhhm, okay....
Yeah, that was a good one for sure. Surprising end too, as it really turned out to be about Boyle, who didn't exactly have the most prominent role until the final few minutes.
Brian probably could have figured out a non-violent solution (especially since we saw that Casey could have shot him at the end, but chose not to), but Boyle 100% made the correct call considering the situation. He saw a highly trained killer (?? is that a fair assumption??) high on a superdrug who was willing to threaten an entire FBI office. The amount of harm someone (a bad guy) could do to the general populace with a stash of NZT at his disposal would be astronomical.
No. Casey didn't think that Boyle was going to shoot, because he couldn't understand any more how someone would be so damn stupid not to see the possibilities or listen to Brian explain the possibilities of the next most likely futures. Boyle should be under orders to ignore his training, when Brian says that FBI training is shit, but he isn't, yet.
Casey didn't lower the gun until he saw that the bullet was coming, because if the bullet hit him while his gun was still against Brian's temple, he would have shot Brian. Casey saved Brian. If Casey saved Brian, then he probably wouldn't have shot Brian, then there was no reason to shoot Casey in the first place. Brian and Casey thought/assumed that Boyle should have known that shooting Casey would have forced an involuntary reaction in his arm (holding his gun) that would then kill Brian.
It was impossible to kill Casey without killing Brian, unless Casey took steps to not shoot Brian after he already figured out that his death was unavoidable, which he didn't have to do and might not have had the wit or speed to do himself even with NZT.
Faster than a speeding bullet.
FBI training saved the other 30 people in the office, and everyone outside the office by killing Casey and probably wounding Brian horrendously until he would be of no use to the program now, what with half his face missing.
Is Brian's immunity to the side effects of NZT more important than 30 regular people?
No?
If Brian is less valuable than 30 trained Agents, then it was right to shoot Casey, even if that act had a knock on effect which also killed Brian... If anyone at all was ever in danger from Casey.
Unfortunately FBI training, I'm guessing, is that any one holding a gun in a menacing fashion, is seen as a threat and a combatant unless they immediately disarm upon being ordered to do so. It didn't matter that Casey was impotent to use his gun, because he was striving very well to enforce an air of recognizable potency that should not be doubted.
Casey didn't lower the gun until he saw that the bullet was coming, because if the bullet hit him while his gun was still against Brian's temple, he would have shot Brian. Casey saved Brian. If Casey saved Brian, then he probably wouldn't have shot Brian, then there was no reason to shoot Casey in the first place. Brian and Casey thought/assumed that Boyle should have known that shooting Casey would have forced an involuntary reaction in his arm (holding his gun) that would then kill Brian.
It was impossible to kill Casey without killing Brian, unless Casey took steps to not shoot Brian after he already figured out that his death was unavoidable, which he didn't have to do and might not have had the wit or speed to do himself even with NZT.
Faster than a speeding bullet.
FBI training saved the other 30 people in the office, and everyone outside the office by killing Casey and probably wounding Brian horrendously until he would be of no use to the program now, what with half his face missing.
Is Brian's immunity to the side effects of NZT more important than 30 regular people?
No?
If Brian is less valuable than 30 trained Agents, then it was right to shoot Casey, even if that act had a knock on effect which also killed Brian... If anyone at all was ever in danger from Casey.
Unfortunately FBI training, I'm guessing, is that any one holding a gun in a menacing fashion, is seen as a threat and a combatant unless they immediately disarm upon being ordered to do so. It didn't matter that Casey was impotent to use his gun, because he was striving very well to enforce an air of recognizable potency that should not be doubted.
There's no way for Casey to lower his gun after the bullet was fired, he knew he was morally responsible for what happened. Allowing himself to be killed was the easy way out actually, it meant his actions were exposed, no one knows that he hid a murder that in a number of ways he, himself caused.
http://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=438&t=24309
Brian believed that Casey lowered his gun after Boyle pulled his trigger.
New episode tonight...
"The Assassination of Eddie Morra"
"The Assassination of Eddie Morra"
I really liked this ep. Eddie's morals or lack thee of makes him look very guilty. And I think Brian is underestimating Eddie and vice versa. And we got some reasons for Eddie's actions in the movie, he wanted to be more than he was, not better just more. Brian though is more focused on his family and he wants some validation from his father, but I it's very easy to identify with Brian certainly more than Eddie.
I really liked the episode, too. I like that they are keeping up with the continuity, how everything is linking together.
Eddie's character is fascinating--I love how he knows right away he's going to be shot but analyses how best to turn it into an advantage. I'm thinking that Eddie will not turn out to be the Big Bad--at least not completely--and that the blonde does indeed turn out to be a psycho.
Only time will tell.
Eddie's character is fascinating--I love how he knows right away he's going to be shot but analyses how best to turn it into an advantage. I'm thinking that Eddie will not turn out to be the Big Bad--at least not completely--and that the blonde does indeed turn out to be a psycho.
Only time will tell.
There is absolutely a secret third faction.
Someone invented NZT, and set all this in motion.
Someone invented NZT, and set all this in motion.
