Let's talk about the elephant in the room, this series violates Roddenberry's vision big time
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We don't. This is all a holodeck program.
*Your entire life is changed by the program ending and you're in a room at Starbase 108*
Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
As George Lucas said, "Movies are an artform which is also a successful business, which means it's always a weird compromise."
Roddenberry made a positive good in the world with his show--and a shit ton of money.
Guys, it's DSC. They even put it on the shuttles in episode 3.
For what it's worth I love TNG. It's either my second- or third-favorite series depending on when you ask. But I won't for a moment sit back and pretend that the sterile, utopian and bland attitudes and lack of real human confrontation between crewmembers in many if not most episodes don't impact my overall enjoyment of them. Archer, Pike, Kirk, Sisko and even Janeway weren't afraid to stir the pot and encourage or tolerate the heated and very modern display of emotions aboard their ships. The fact that Lorca isn't just another poster child for the starship command path and has a dark side to his personality makes him an interesting man and officer.
He admits at one point during his first meeting with Burnham that they live in a society where hunger, want and poverty have been eliminated, but that doesn't change the fact that he embraces his family history and traditions and sees the galaxy through a very textured lens. There's nothing wrong with humanity evolving to the point where we no longer wage war on one another or go hungry, but if you're going to give us characters living in the near-utopia of 23rd century Earth and the Federation then at least don't make them feel like cold, emotionally detached college professors who want you to sit down and behave so they can get through that day's lesson. There's a lot to be said for passion and acting, well, like human beings.
He admits at one point during his first meeting with Burnham that they live in a society where hunger, want and poverty have been eliminated, but that doesn't change the fact that he embraces his family history and traditions and sees the galaxy through a very textured lens. There's nothing wrong with humanity evolving to the point where we no longer wage war on one another or go hungry, but if you're going to give us characters living in the near-utopia of 23rd century Earth and the Federation then at least don't make them feel like cold, emotionally detached college professors who want you to sit down and behave so they can get through that day's lesson. There's a lot to be said for passion and acting, well, like human beings.
My biggest problem with Discovery is it went to the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Everyone's either a dick (Burnham, Saru, Stamets, Lorca) or they're incompetent (Burnham, Landry).
It didn't need to be this way. It is harder to write people hanging onto their values in bad situations than it is to write everyone being out for themselves. At least that's my experience with what writing I have done.
This is one of my main concerns about this series. We see people in ENT and TOS who were more consistent to people who would be in Starfleet. Even if some weren't, they stuck out because most everyone was not that way.
But in DSC I really don't see characters that have that middle ground, where they have tendencies of being over the edge with being a dick or incompetent, but it gets reigned back in somehow.
I don't understand what happened in the 100 years after ENT that made Starfleet a group of idiots and then switch back by TOS.
ENT got Starfleet officers right. The series may have been uneven at times but the characterizations made sense and were the most true to real life people.
Just a water bear.
Low recruitment among farm boys from Iowa
No, it has been the trend long before Trump took office.
A better question is: Why do you care what acronym I use for it?
I care as a Trekkie who'd like others to become fans too to see the fandom something they'd like to join.
A truly better question is why do you care to be petty?
