The novelisation of The Motion Picture comes pretty close. That's a weird book.
Let's talk about the elephant in the room, this series violates Roddenberry's vision big time
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I would say "The Cage" is the purest form of the original concept of Star Trek, well before all this high-minded, Utopian no-conflict gibberish that got promoted as "Gene's Vision (tm)" much later, especially with the advent of TNG.
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Watching the first season of TOS in production order (rather than airing order) is an interesting experience, because you can see how they only really bolted down both the Trek format and the "Trek mythos" when Gene Coon came on. They were basically just making shit up as they went along to see what worked.
The pilot where humanity tells off God and inverts Hamlet's speech on arrogance also works.
Ah, yes, the only published reference to Kirk's junk in the official novel line.
“Hello, Jim.” As always, her lips seemed to caress his name as she spoke it.
He could almost catch the scent of her body fragrance, and he could feel the slight pressure of his genitals responding to those memories. She had been perfection—lover, friend, wife, mother, and in every other role and joy she supplied as he slowly recovered from the fatigue and emotional wounds of those five long years out there.
That's just my point. How much of what we consider to be foundation to Star Trek is the contribution of other people apart from Roddenberry?
Your responses towards posters who have expressed any criticism of DSC, no matter how mild or reasonable it is, have been uniformly hostile and insulting. You've been verbally warned and given infractions by the mods multiple times and show no sign of changing your behavior. And now you're being hostile again for no reason and publicly announcing that you're putting a poster on ignore, which we have established multiple times is not allowed. So you've earned yourself another infraction.
Infraction for publicly announcing that you're putting a poster on ignore and for constant hostile replies to dissenting opinions. Comments to PM.
EDIT: I am reversing this infraction since my co-mod Emilia already gave you a verbal warning and another chance before receiving an infraction in the thread as I was typing up my post. So the point is being removed from your record.
Do not accuse people of trolling or tell them how they should think or that their opinions are lies. Since you didn't accuse anyone specific and this is your first offense, you'll just get a verbal warning (a "friendly") this time. But don't let it happen again.
Let's keep it from getting personal here, everyone.
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That paragraph has haunted me for decades.
It's not a world most people would want to live in (which was the criteria mentioned) and there are plenty of dicks in it.
I'm sure overtime we'll see that there are also many likable characters in Discovery as well. We're only 3 episodes in, but the first 2 were a prologue. So, only one episode of the series proper. Patience. Give it some time! Lorca, Saru, and Tilly all seem nice already. I bet we warm up to others too.
There's a lot of rambling weird stuff in the prologue which is awesome. I may be misremembering but:
* Kirk and Spock are assumed to be lovers because of their apparent bond.
* Starfleet is made of the B-average second stringers because all A-stringers defect to become Alien cultural enthusiasts.
* Large rampant public nudity
Oh Federation, never change
* Kirk and Spock are assumed to be lovers because of their apparent bond.
* Starfleet is made of the B-average second stringers because all A-stringers defect to become Alien cultural enthusiasts.
* Large rampant public nudity
Oh Federation, never change
I'd say less.
I think you're probably correct about that. Time will tell of course. I'm also enjoying it and wondering where it'll go.
I knew ENT was a trainwreck when they explained, "No one does any hunting on Earth."
That told me we weren't not in any way interested in a non-Roddenberry or Not Yet There Humanity.
I think the jury is still out on whether Lorca is "nice," which I kinda like. I'll take interesting and ambiguous over nice any day.
I'd take that to mean they got it just right!
Everything I've seen with Section 31, a hostile foreign enemy, morally compromised but decent heroes, and so on tells me this is basically DS9.
Which isn't a bad thing. DS9 was all about Star Trek's ideals being TESTED but still ultimately RIGHT rather than repudiating them.
I will, however, wonder if we'll get the same religious focus but with the Klingon and Vulcan religions instead of the Bajorans.
Which isn't a bad thing. DS9 was all about Star Trek's ideals being TESTED but still ultimately RIGHT rather than repudiating them.
I will, however, wonder if we'll get the same religious focus but with the Klingon and Vulcan religions instead of the Bajorans.
Truuuuue. I guess I more mean interesting and able to get a long with. I suspect he'll grow on a lot of people as time goes by. He really seemed to soften by the end of the episode. He's probably jaded too and we're seeing that. So far I liked his characterization which is what I really meant.I think the jury is still out on whether Lorca is "nice," which I kinda like. I'll take interesting and ambiguous over nice any day.
Given he's keeping a xenomorph in his ship for what is almost certainly plans to unleash it on the Klingons, I think we can safely say Lucius Malfoy is a bad guy.
It would be an ENORMOUS twist if he wasn't.
And yet the opening scene feature Farmer Bob pulling out his long gun and baggin hiself a Klingon!
