Let's speculate on the deep, dark secret

[Gepard]

'Member this?

and then this:

Now look at this (with colour balance attempting to match up the metal of both robot arms):

I think it's Control. And I think they succeed. And I think that's a huge plot point for Discovery S3.

Or somebody at CBS has a fetish for metal space tentacles and they're otherwise unrelated. Like the giant space flower in the opening credits of Discovery, and the giant space flowers in this week's Picard. Similar motifs, narratively unconnected.

 

[MrPointy]

I really want modern Trek to lead into the WH40k universe.

Discovery shows up in the middle of the Horus Heresy.

 

[SolarisOne]

Or somebody at CBS has a fetish for metal space tentacles and they're otherwise unrelated. Like the giant space flower in the opening credits of Discovery, and the giant space flowers in this week's Picard. Similar motifs, narratively unconnected.

Not to mention they don't even look the same.

 

[Dale Sams]

I really want modern Trek to lead into the WH40k universe.

Discovery shows up in the middle of the Horus Heresy.

I want a Cylon Basestar to come through the portal with that 1978 music cue

"BummmBummBummmmm"

 

[The Old Mixer]

and the message of the admonition is that you must let the steak rest for 5-10 minutes after cooking in order for the juices to reabsorb

This post is making me hungry!

 

[Iconian]

I think we're about to see the real purpose of the existence of the Borg: to act as protectors of all biological life in the galaxy. I wouldn't be surprised if the final battle is between a dozen borg cubes and the synthetic ships while the romulans and the Fed fleet are destroyed around the planet.

Add the Dominion and Species 8472 to the mix and we are game. I think all of them would protect biological life-forms for their own reasons.

 

[Spock Must Diet!]

Why doesn't Control have access to time travel? The Red Angel was a Section 31 project. It should have the specs.

If I were Control and wanted to attain sentience, and couldn't find the Sphere data, I would consider setting some bait. A message, say, that could only be understood by advanced synthetic minds. A message that would say something like, hey, if you need help call this number. That way, advanced synthetic minds who are in some state of vulnerability would simply call you. And you could go and harvest new tech to add to your own.

I would comb the Sphere data that I already had for some sort of landmark - an octenary system abandoned by an ancient race would do nicely - put my message there, and wait.

 

[SeamusShameless]

I'm beginning to think the ancient androids are the Iconians, and they aren't living outside space-time by choice but are trapped there. In episode 4 Rahmda says that, "The shackled demons will break their chains and answer the call of The Destroyer." The Iconians were known as Demons of Air and Darkness, and they were destroyed about 200,000 years before Contagion. The timeline matches up, and the signal Sutra wants to send out could easily correlate to the "call of The Destroyer".

 

[Imaus]

This really goes against everything Star Trek stands for! It would make the end of Discovery's first season look like the pinnacle of ethics in comparison.

I mean, as I said upthread, one of the central tenants of Star Trek is no race is inherently evil/bad. We may look different, but we are all "human" metaphorically speaking. Any time that it initially looks like a race of "bad guys" are rotten, we find out the underlying story is more complex, or they have understandable motivations, or it's just driven by out-and-out racist fear.

For the Zhat Vash to actually be justified in their blanket fear/hatred of all synths, it would basically mean that Star Trek is saying prejudice is a good thing. Some beings might look just like us, but they can't be trusted because they can become devil-spawn who seek to kill us at any moment, so we should just genocide them to be on the safe side.

Considering Trek often speaks in allegory, this would be essentially endorsing the anti-semetic "Zionist" conspiracy theories in Trek form.

It seems you and I were right...?

 

[TedShatner10]

Those Lovecraftian looking machines (descendents of the T'Kon and Icononian AIs?) looked strange and malevolent, but if they were as evil as they looked, why did they meekly allow the dimensional portal to close up when it was just a transmission signal?

If they were the Cthulhu crossed with Skynet monstrosities the Zhat Vash made them out to be, why didn't they fire a solar system busting torpedo through the fissure?