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Legendary's Godzilla 2 & beyond - News & Rumors

The second Legendary Monsterverse film, Kong: Skull Island, had very rich character work, like the studio learned from its mistakes with Godzilla. So I'm hopeful the same will be true here.
Good point. I was mostly happy with the characters in that film so hopefully that will continue with this one.

Millie Bobbi Brown is amazing in Stranger Things, and while I obviously don't know how strong her material in this will be, I'm confident she'll do a good job with what she's given. I very much doubt that she'll be one of those annoying kids that have ruined movies like this in the past.
Millie Bobby Brown.
 
Okay, I know that having Objectively Bad Opinions is kind of your thing, but how in the blue fucking hell can you dislike stuff like Jaws, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the Indiana Jones trilogy or Close Encounters?

Ok, yeah, I fucked up bad with that. I love Indiana Jones 1 and 3, and Who framed Roger rabbit. I was just not thinking. I will point out though that Roger rabbit is directed by Robert Zemeckis, not Spielberg.

That said, screw Close Encounters of the Coma Inducing Kind, its one of the worst Sci Fi "classics" I've seen, and Jaws is also boring but not quite to the same level as CE. You didn't mention ET, but I also consider that to be boring and not entertaining at all (even as a kid I didn't like it).

While Brown is on-screen in the trailer for slightly more than 30 seconds, the bulk of that is the slow build-up at the beginning with her on the roof. She has exactly one line of dialogue in it. In comparison, there is also more than 30 seconds of on-screen monsters (not even counting Rodan's shadow).

Yeah, and I'm sure the trailers for the first movie gave Godzilla more time by percentage then he had in the actual movie.

Also, if your comparison is Bryan Cranston in the first one, maybe you should remember how much he was actually in the movie.

I remember, and I'm sure they're going to compensate by putting the ST kid in a lot more.

Also also, it was Gareth Edwards' idea to limit Godzilla's screentime in the first one, in an attempt to mimic how Spielberg used the shark in "Jaws". Edwards is not involved in this one. The last movie in this franchise (the Legendary Monsterverse, that is), "Kong: Skull Island", already had much more screentime and clearer shots of the titular monster.

So, a doofus took ideas from what I consider a boring movie (done by Speilberg, who I was just talking about) and ruined Godzilla. That makes a lot of sense, actually, since even the horrible Matthew Broderick movie had an ok amount of Godzilla. Even if you like Jaws, I don't see how you could think a Godzilla movie works even remotely like it. As for Kong: Skull Island, while it had a good amount of Kong, wasn't very good story wise so that's not really making me feel better.

And to close with a side-note: It's Toho that is the Japanese studio that owns Godzilla. Toei is the studio that makes the Super Sentai and Kamen Rider shows.

D'oh. Brain fart.
 
Yeah, and I'm sure the trailers for the first movie gave Godzilla more time by percentage then he had in the actual movie.

So, your argument is that trailers and marketing can give a wrong impression of a movie?! Then, how can you make any assumption of the kind you made?

I remember, and I'm sure they're going to compensate by putting the ST kid in a lot more.

What the hell kind of logic is that?
 
What the hell kind of logic is that?

The logic that they already had a movie where Godzilla was barely more then a cameo, and its got to be more expensive to show monsters then human characters anyway. Plus the ST kid is popular right now, and lets be honest whenever a kid is in a movie like this it becomes there movie, because people that make movies tend to be idiots when it comes to kid characters. They hired that person to headline the movie based on the trailer, when Godzilla should be the main thing. So, yeah, even though I liked Godzilla 2015 decently, I have no faith in this film after seeing that trailer. A kid character is the absolute last thing the movie needs, and its what the trailer is focusing on when its not showing probably 90% of the monster footage that is in the actual film.
 
Okay, I know that having Objectively Bad Opinions is kind of your thing, but how in the blue fucking hell can you dislike stuff like Jaws, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the Indiana Jones trilogy or Close Encounters?

Raiders was fucking awesome, the other Indy films were tripe. Yeah, I said it. Other than that I agree with everything else you've said here. :)
 
The logic that they already had a movie where Godzilla was barely more then a cameo, and its got to be more expensive to show monsters then human characters anyway. Plus the ST kid is popular right now, and lets be honest whenever a kid is in a movie like this it becomes there movie, because people that make movies tend to be idiots when it comes to kid characters. They hired that person to headline the movie based on the trailer, when Godzilla should be the main thing. So, yeah, even though I liked Godzilla 2015 decently, I have no faith in this film after seeing that trailer. A kid character is the absolute last thing the movie needs, and its what the trailer is focusing on when its not showing probably 90% of the monster footage that is in the actual film.

Seriously, the movie is a year away from being released, how can you already dislike it this mu, ... sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.
 
Seriously, the movie is a year away from being released, how can you already dislike it this mu, ... sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.

Hey, show me a Godzilla movie with those effects and premise but without it being focused on a kid, and I would be extremely hyped and positive. Its not my fault the movie thinks that focusing on a kid makes sense for a Godzilla movie designed for a general audience. I'm still legitimately excited and positive about the 5 minutes of the probably 2 and a half to 3 hour movie that don't involve the kid from Stranger Things, I'm sure those are going to be an epic 5 minutes. Maybe if this fails the next people to do an America Godzilla movie will learn their lesson and focus on the title creature, instead of the trending actor of the week they hire for the movie.
 
Yeah, and I'm sure the trailers for the first movie gave Godzilla more time by percentage then he had in the actual movie.

They really didn't. They showed a half second shot of his back in the water, a half second shot of his tail disappearing around a building, and a half second shot of paratroopers falling past his chest (or was it a leg? I can't even tell) in the dark. The only clear shot in the trailers was that shot of Godzilla roaring at the camera while doors close between him and the camera, which they lingered on for a whole four or five seconds. Meanwhile, Bryan Cranston, who died in the first act, was the focus of a good 1:15 to 1:30 of footage, from multiple different scenes, in a 2:30 trailer.

Your assumptions are obviously ridiculous.
 
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I liked the new Godzilla. Focusing on the humans gave a better idea of the scale of Godzilla and showing his impact on everything around him. A similar method was used in the film Monster made by the same director. It gave Godzilla a sort of shock and awe, it's this huge monster that fills your entire field of view but there was something magnificent about him as well. It's the director's view, since this movie has a different director they'll have a different view on how to direct it.

I imagine they'll show them more, especially since they all have to be set up before the final brawl. King Ghidorah will probably get teased, they'll need a big "oh shit" moment when you don't know how Godzilla can possibly fight it.
 
The music in the trailer is Debussy's Clair de Lune, which means "moonlight", and the trailer has a distinctly moonlit tone, with the soft blue-white-hue and almost the look of a hazy Impressionist painting in the new synthetic blue colors that were becoming affordable to the artists of the era.

Also, while I highly doubt they'd introduce the alien element in this as that would be too much of a distraction, Destroy All Monsters involved aliens taking control of all the world's kaiju from a secret base on the Moon and deploying them to attack the world as a distraction from their main plan at Mt. Fuji. Perhaps the world-threatening catastrophe mentioned in the film has something to do with the Moon, though I don't really see how that could be humanity's fault, as suggested in the trailer, which implies a more terrestrial environmental cause. Regardless, a lot of the other elements of Destroy All Monsters seem to be in use here, like the underground Monarch base with the captured kaiju and the final smackdown with Ghidorah:
At the close of the 20th century, all of the Earth's kaiju have been collected by the United Nations Science Committee and confined in an area known as Monsterland, located in the Ogasawara island chain. A special control center is constructed underneath the island to ensure that the monsters stay secure and to serve as a research facility to study them.

When communications with Monsterland are suddenly and mysteriously severed, and all of the monsters begin attacking world capitals, Dr. Yoshida of the UNSC orders Captain Yamabe and the crew of his spaceship, Moonlight SY-3, to investigate Ogasawara. There, they discover that the scientists, led by Dr. Otani, have become mind-controlled slaves of a feminine alien race identifying themselves as the Kilaaks, who reveal that they are in control of the monsters. Their leader demands that the human race surrender, or face total annihilation.

Godzilla attacks New York City, Rodan invades Moscow, Mothra (a larva offspring) lays waste to Beijing, Gorosaurus destroys Paris, and Manda attacks London. These attacks were set in to motion to draw attention away from Japan, so that the aliens can establish an underground stronghold near Mt. Fuji in Japan. The Kilaaks then turn their next major attack on to Tokyo and, without serious opposition, become arrogant in their aims, until the UNSC discover that the Kilaaks have switched to broadcasting the control signals from their base under the Moon's surface. In a desperate battle, the crew of the SY-3 destroys the Kilaak's lunar outpost and returns the alien control system to Earth.

With all of the monsters under the control of the UNSC, the Kilaaks unleash their hidden weapon, King Ghidorah. The three-headed space monster is dispatched to protect the alien stronghold at Mt. Fuji, and battles Godzilla, Minilla, Mothra, Rodan, Gorosaurus, Anguirus, and Kumonga. While seemingly invincible, King Ghidorah is eventually overpowered by the combined strength of the Earth monsters and is killed. Refusing to admit defeat, the Kilaaks produce their trump card, a burning monster they call the Fire Dragon, which begins to torch cities and destroys the control center on Ogasawara. Suddenly, Godzilla attacks and destroys the Kilaak's underground base, revealing that the Earth's monsters instinctively know who their enemies are. Captain Yamabe then pursues the Fire Dragon in the SY-3 and narrowly achieves victory for the human race. The Fire Dragon is revealed to be a flaming Kilaak saucer and is destroyed. Godzilla and the other monsters eventually return to Monsterland to live in peace.
 
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The music in the trailer is Debussy's Clair de Lune, which means "moonlight", and the trailer has a distinctly moonlit tone, with the soft blue-white-hue and almost the look of a hazy Impressionist painting in the new synthetic blue colors that were becoming affordable to the artists of the era.

I recognized the music instantly - as Nurse Tatiana's theme from 'The Evil Within.' :eek::guffaw:
 
From the trailer, cleansing Earth of a large amount of humanity so the planet can recover from us.

Seems to be a recurring theme (think Infinity War). Would be nice if we actually paid attention to these problems in the real world.

I can't wait to hear what they've done with his traditional shrieks / screams.

Yep. That distorted hammond organ or whatever was used is so iconic.
 
There's a theory going on that Charles Dances' character in this is actually the older version of Tom Hiddleston from Skull Island. Would be cool if it were true.
 
Yeah, I like that idea. Are there any returning characters from the first Godzilla?
 
There's a theory going on that Charles Dances' character in this is actually the older version of Tom Hiddleston from Skull Island. Would be cool if it were true.
Ooo...I like that idea, too. If that's the case, I hope Brie Larson's character is in the film, too.
 
I still find it odd that they named Watanabe's character after Daisuke Serizawa from the original 1954 film (and made him Daisuke's son in the tie-in comic) when his role in the story is more like that of Kyohei Yamane, the elderly scientist from the same film (who had an expository cameo in the second).
 
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