Legendary's Godzilla 2 & beyond - News & Rumors

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  1. The Scrooge Doctor

    The Scrooge Doctor Bah humbug! Premium Member

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    Good point. I was mostly happy with the characters in that film so hopefully that will continue with this one.

    Millie Bobby Brown.
     
  2. kirk55555

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    Ok, yeah, I fucked up bad with that. I love Indiana Jones 1 and 3, and Who framed Roger rabbit. I was just not thinking. I will point out though that Roger rabbit is directed by Robert Zemeckis, not Spielberg.

    That said, screw Close Encounters of the Coma Inducing Kind, its one of the worst Sci Fi "classics" I've seen, and Jaws is also boring but not quite to the same level as CE. You didn't mention ET, but I also consider that to be boring and not entertaining at all (even as a kid I didn't like it).

    Yeah, and I'm sure the trailers for the first movie gave Godzilla more time by percentage then he had in the actual movie.

    I remember, and I'm sure they're going to compensate by putting the ST kid in a lot more.

    So, a doofus took ideas from what I consider a boring movie (done by Speilberg, who I was just talking about) and ruined Godzilla. That makes a lot of sense, actually, since even the horrible Matthew Broderick movie had an ok amount of Godzilla. Even if you like Jaws, I don't see how you could think a Godzilla movie works even remotely like it. As for Kong: Skull Island, while it had a good amount of Kong, wasn't very good story wise so that's not really making me feel better.

    D'oh. Brain fart.
     
  3. The Kai "the spy" Holiday Special

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    So, your argument is that trailers and marketing can give a wrong impression of a movie?! Then, how can you make any assumption of the kind you made?

    What the hell kind of logic is that?
     
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  4. kirk55555

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    The logic that they already had a movie where Godzilla was barely more then a cameo, and its got to be more expensive to show monsters then human characters anyway. Plus the ST kid is popular right now, and lets be honest whenever a kid is in a movie like this it becomes there movie, because people that make movies tend to be idiots when it comes to kid characters. They hired that person to headline the movie based on the trailer, when Godzilla should be the main thing. So, yeah, even though I liked Godzilla 2015 decently, I have no faith in this film after seeing that trailer. A kid character is the absolute last thing the movie needs, and its what the trailer is focusing on when its not showing probably 90% of the monster footage that is in the actual film.
     
  5. The Lensman

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    Raiders was fucking awesome, the other Indy films were tripe. Yeah, I said it. Other than that I agree with everything else you've said here. :)
     
  6. The Kai "the spy" Holiday Special

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    Seriously, the movie is a year away from being released, how can you already dislike it this mu, ... sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.
     
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  7. kirk55555

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    Hey, show me a Godzilla movie with those effects and premise but without it being focused on a kid, and I would be extremely hyped and positive. Its not my fault the movie thinks that focusing on a kid makes sense for a Godzilla movie designed for a general audience. I'm still legitimately excited and positive about the 5 minutes of the probably 2 and a half to 3 hour movie that don't involve the kid from Stranger Things, I'm sure those are going to be an epic 5 minutes. Maybe if this fails the next people to do an America Godzilla movie will learn their lesson and focus on the title creature, instead of the trending actor of the week they hire for the movie.
     
  8. Hartzilla2007

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    Honestly that whole movie made me feel like I was smashed.
     
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    They really didn't. They showed a half second shot of his back in the water, a half second shot of his tail disappearing around a building, and a half second shot of paratroopers falling past his chest (or was it a leg? I can't even tell) in the dark. The only clear shot in the trailers was that shot of Godzilla roaring at the camera while doors close between him and the camera, which they lingered on for a whole four or five seconds. Meanwhile, Bryan Cranston, who died in the first act, was the focus of a good 1:15 to 1:30 of footage, from multiple different scenes, in a 2:30 trailer.

    Your assumptions are obviously ridiculous.
     
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    I liked the new Godzilla. Focusing on the humans gave a better idea of the scale of Godzilla and showing his impact on everything around him. A similar method was used in the film Monster made by the same director. It gave Godzilla a sort of shock and awe, it's this huge monster that fills your entire field of view but there was something magnificent about him as well. It's the director's view, since this movie has a different director they'll have a different view on how to direct it.

    I imagine they'll show them more, especially since they all have to be set up before the final brawl. King Ghidorah will probably get teased, they'll need a big "oh shit" moment when you don't know how Godzilla can possibly fight it.
     
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    The music in the trailer is Debussy's Clair de Lune, which means "moonlight", and the trailer has a distinctly moonlit tone, with the soft blue-white-hue and almost the look of a hazy Impressionist painting in the new synthetic blue colors that were becoming affordable to the artists of the era.

    Also, while I highly doubt they'd introduce the alien element in this as that would be too much of a distraction, Destroy All Monsters involved aliens taking control of all the world's kaiju from a secret base on the Moon and deploying them to attack the world as a distraction from their main plan at Mt. Fuji. Perhaps the world-threatening catastrophe mentioned in the film has something to do with the Moon, though I don't really see how that could be humanity's fault, as suggested in the trailer, which implies a more terrestrial environmental cause. Regardless, a lot of the other elements of Destroy All Monsters seem to be in use here, like the underground Monarch base with the captured kaiju and the final smackdown with Ghidorah:
     
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    I recognized the music instantly - as Nurse Tatiana's theme from 'The Evil Within.' :eek::guffaw:
     
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    Seems to be a recurring theme (think Infinity War). Would be nice if we actually paid attention to these problems in the real world.

    Yep. That distorted hammond organ or whatever was used is so iconic.
     
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    There's a theory going on that Charles Dances' character in this is actually the older version of Tom Hiddleston from Skull Island. Would be cool if it were true.
     
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    Yeah, I like that idea. Are there any returning characters from the first Godzilla?
     
  17. The Kai "the spy" Holiday Special

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    Doctors Serizawa and Graham were in the trailer.
     
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  18. Ar-Pharazon

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    Ken Watanabe as Dr. Ishiro Serizawa, though further down the cast list this time.

    ^D'oh!
     
  19. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Ooo...I like that idea, too. If that's the case, I hope Brie Larson's character is in the film, too.
     
  20. Christopher

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    I still find it odd that they named Watanabe's character after Daisuke Serizawa from the original 1954 film (and made him Daisuke's son in the tie-in comic) when his role in the story is more like that of Kyohei Yamane, the elderly scientist from the same film (who had an expository cameo in the second).