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Spoilers La'An - what's going to happen?

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Peck to me is the only actor who could probably pull off Spock in any way close to how Nimoy played the character. And Peck does his own thing. He makes his Spock more vulnerable and emotional, which plays into the character being more "smiley" and "shouty" in the TOS Pilot Era, but also imbues him with facets that Nimoy never did or couldn't.

He's a great Spock, and a perfect Spock for the pre-TOS timeframe.
I think it also helps that I keep seeing bits of Peck's grandfather in his performance from time to time.
 
Her story has some similarilty with Pike's inasmuch as there is a sense she has a fate that she pereceives as dreadful. Pike's vision in a somnolent state was of a woman dragging a scythe across the floor - which obviously heralds death. Pike understands his fate as a kind of death. La'an's altered consciousness experience involved getting access to future knowledge (knowing precisely how David would die) and when she fully embraced her power it seemed she was embodying a personal future state. She also wields power like a merciless Klingon - exactly how David dies.

We know Pike's fate is not as certain or as hopeless as he currently believes and that might also be true for La'an. Her task would be utilising her power but integrating it into the fundamentally decent person she is rather than being overwhelmed by it.
 
I definitely think they are hinting at dark things to come for La'an, but then I also remember how she was when Pike saw her again in Quality of Mercy, even though that was a future event that could only happen if he were to avert his own fate. But, unless she was also somehow involved in what happens to him directly, I'm not sure how him avoiding his fate would have affected her so positively. I think at the time the writers were using her as a shorthand to show a time jump. And also hint at Una's upcoming trial. Except they had to know it would go well for her so bringing it up seems odd, in retrospect.

And right after that episode we saw La'an start to find ways to actually enjoy herself. She started dancing, making friends, etc. So at that time they must have had an arc in mind for her, and I feel it might still be true, and whatever is going on with her will end up being something that sucks but she is able to get past. Star Trek loves personal growth stories.

I suspect there actually was something on that ship in Ep2 and La'an is in their sights now and she's going to be forced to confront them again only the next time she, like Spock was able to, embraces all of who she is, (a carrier of augmented DNA, maybe still has some Vuclan left as well, still carrying so much survivors guilt, ect.) to get through it and comes out the other side lighter.

And I do hope they also tie wherever Una ends up back to the comment in Quality of Mercy. But it's because Una takes a commission where she is unavailable to her former crewmates, not that she got booted- which was what I think they were hinting at to make her trail later more dramatic.
 
I definitely think they are hinting at dark things to come for La'an, but then I also remember how she was when Pike saw her again in Quality of Mercy, even though that was a future event that could only happen if he were to avert his own fate. But, unless she was also somehow involved in what happens to him directly, I'm not sure how him avoiding his fate would have affected her so positively. I think at the time the writers were using her as a shorthand to show a time jump. And also hint at Una's upcoming trial. Except they had to know it would go well for her so bringing it up seems odd, in retrospect.

And right after that episode we saw La'an start to find ways to actually enjoy herself. She started dancing, making friends, etc. So at that time they must have had an arc in mind for her, and I feel it might still be true, and whatever is going on with her will end up being something that sucks but she is able to get past. Star Trek loves personal growth stories.

I suspect there actually was something on that ship in Ep2 and La'an is in their sights now and she's going to be forced to confront them again only the next time she, like Spock was able to, embraces all of who she is, (a carrier of augmented DNA, maybe still has some Vuclan left as well, still carrying so much survivors guilt, ect.) to get through it and comes out the other side lighter.

And I do hope they also tie wherever Una ends up back to the comment in Quality of Mercy. But it's because Una takes a commission where she is unavailable to her former crewmates, not that she got booted- which was what I think they were hinting at to make her trail later more dramatic.
It's best to ignore Quality of Mercy for anything. Jim Kirk is visiting the ship every other week in SNW, yet in Quality Pike had never met him before. That every single Kirk visit would've been prevented just because Pike told everyone about the time crystal is kind of hard to believe.
 
It's best to ignore Quality of Mercy for anything. Jim Kirk is visiting the ship every other week in SNW, yet in Quality Pike had never met him before. That every single Kirk visit would've been prevented just because Pike told everyone about the time crystal is kind of hard to believe.
Kirk's connection to the ship starts because of "Quality of Mercy." That's when Pike takes notice of him. In Prime Kirk's first appearance on SNW he's a member of the Farragut crew. His next is on TDY with the Enterprise. Which was no doubt arranged by Pike.
 
Kirk's connection to the ship starts because of "Quality of Mercy." That's when Pike takes notice of him. In Prime Kirk's first appearance on SNW he's a member of the Farragut crew. His next is on TDY with the Enterprise. Which was no doubt arranged by Pike.
Indeed. Ignoring Quality of Mercy is absurd because it's Pike asserting control were he can while accepting his fate.
 
Indeed. Ignoring Quality of Mercy is absurd because it's Pike asserting control were he can while accepting his fate.

Such a bad episode. Ranks down there with "Unification III" and "The Inner Light" as something I have no desire to revisit again.
 
What the fuck is "Quality Pike"?
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