Kurtzman gets 5 1/2 year deal with 3 new shows in the works

[RAMA]

Over the course of the many Academy ideas, I've been against it...but with so many shows on, with such variety, and expanding to new demographics, possibly a teen or college age series would be just the ticket for the franchise.

RAMA

Sounds like a fan film producer.........but seriously folks. They have been wanting that damn Academy show since the 70s.......smh.

 

[Cyrus]

And I loved I, Robot (I say that as a longtime Asimov fan). I don't think Batman and Robin was his fault really.

He already apologized for Batman and Robin. I Robot was terrible and antithesis of the book (with Robots as bad guys). But he was one of the writers so doesn’t get the full blame.

But I have liked his work on Star Trek so far and I think he was the one that brought Chabon to Trek. I used to have a very negative opinion of Goldsman but now i think he is fine.

 

[RAMA]

Dramatic much? It is a franchise I love, a franchise that I'm not particularly thrilled in the direction it is going... but I have no need for people to lose their jobs over it. There is plenty of good TV out there, beyond that, sports, books, video games, and of course, the Star Trek I already love.

The franchise has never been healthier. It's diversified in tone, cinematic in scope, brings in a profit, is critically acclaimed, and is more watched internationally than ever. These are obvious rewards for all the metrics the series have had success in.

RAMA

 

[RAMA]

Absolutely loved it, it's one of my most rewatched movies since it came out...and the ending retained the message of the book. Most latter day robot stories worked to get around the 3 laws, as the movie did, which usually meant the robots did something unexpected. Besides, the robots were said to be perfect before the AI used the "Zeroth Law", and the main protagonists views on robots were changed at the end.

Whether people thinks it's important or not (I have a mixed view generally), Akiva remains probably the biggest trek fan amongst the producers and a driving force of many of the decisions that were made (listen to the official Deadline Picard podcast, you'll get a healthier respect for his contributions).

https://open.spotify.com/show/5YLzN...SogpQq9PUQaQ&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1

RAMA

He already apologized for Batman and Robin. I Robot was terrible and antithesis of the book (with Robots as bad guys). But he was one of the writers so doesn’t get the full blame.

But I have liked his work on Star Trek so far and I think he was the one that brought Chabon to Trek. I used to have a very negative opinion of Goldsman but now i think he is fine.

 

[Roald]

Excellent news..! I think Alex is a terrific planner and amazingly good at laying down a map and creating a larger framework: in other words, he is a great producer.

I know there are many who aren't exactly dancing with joy, but in the end: this is the Third Age of Trek, whether you like it or not. It's best to just enjoy the ride..! I know I do..!

 

[FederationHistorian]

Will DIS go beyond 5 seasons

In all likelihood, yes. Although Doomcock would have you believe this upcoming season is the last season of DIS…

 

[Noname Given]

More Short Treks: an interesting project initially, but seems clear it was to fill space and make use of existing assets in the long buildup to new seasons; but with 5 shows in active production, seems unlikely there will be any gaps/need in the near future

A lack of 'gaps' to fill isn't what did in the Short Treks. They were discontinued because of the nature of the new protocols they have to follow to film anything during the COVID-19 pandemic.

I enjoyed the Short Treks because the format didn't allow them to tell stories in an interesting way; and also test some story ideas and concepts that you probably couldn't fit into an hour long/weekly show format - and get a chance to see how a real world audience responds to some of it.

I hope once the world has a handle on the COVID-19 Pandemic situation; that they will resume producing more Short Treks.

In all likelihood, yes. Although Doomcock would have you believe this upcoming season is the last season of DIS…

Oh please... according to that guy EVERY season of Discovery was/will be it's last season. Hell, before the first episode aired, the guy was claiming on supposed good authority that the Discovery pilot episode was so bad that CBS had decided they would never air it via streaming or on TV proper, and that Netflix had already pulled out of the production and canceled the contract between themselves and CBS, and that various executive heads were rolling because of all the time and money wasted...

He's just completely full of sh*t, and making it up as he goes along. The sad thing is one of these days his 'prediction' of Star Trek Discovery's last season will be accurate, but it won't because of any secret leaked knowledge he has that no one else has seen; it's just a fact of entertainment that nothing runs forever.

 

[Quinton]

The sad thing is one of these days his 'prediction' of Star Trek Discovery's last season will be accurate, but it won't because of any secret leaked knowledge he has that no one else has seen; it's just a fact of entertainment that nothing runs forever.

The truly sad thing is, he'll still have followers at that point, and they'll use it as "proof" that he was somehow right all along.

 

[DaveyNY]

In all likelihood, yes. Although Doomcock would have you believe this upcoming season is the last season of DIS…

Heh .. as well as the first Three.

 

[Quinton]

"It's canceled."
"I doubt it will be."
"It already is."
"Production starts next month."
"They're too embarrassed to formally announce production won't happen."
"But the cast and crew are already on-site."
"It's an elaborate charade because the streaming service is that desperate."
"What will they gain by spending money pretending they're about to film a canceled show?"
"Stop asking stupid questions."
"So uh, filming started today."
"Likely for a different project."
"There are literally signs for this show posted all over the place."
"And I'm sure you thought Blue Harvest was Star Wars."
"Um, there's a teaser trailer now."
"Teasing a canceled series."
"Filming ended today."
"Yeah. Forever."
"The season premiere date was just announced."
"Wait and see. The show won't premiere on that date because it's been canceled."
"The uh... the season premiere aired yesterday."
"Too bad for them this will be their final season. The show has already been canceled after this."

 

[johnjm22]

So were Cinderella Man, Fringe and A Beautiful Mind............
on the other hand so was Batman and Robin

When he's good he's great......when he's BAD he's really bad. I'm staying hopeful about SNW for now knowing how much that cast loves the property and how excited THEY seem.

Cinderella Man and A Beautiful Mind were both stories by other people.

I don't know much about Fringe, but Goldsman isn't listed as one of the shows creators or executive producers like he is with SNW. Looks like he was one of many different writers on Fringe.

 

[BillJ]

The Disco cast is fairly young. The show still has legs.

I imagine, like anything else, it comes down to what the contracts with the actors look like and can the show manage salary growth to a point it is still "profitable".

 

[Noname Given]

I imagine, like anything else, it comes down to what the contracts with the actors look like and can the show manage salary growth to a point it is still "profitable".

It also matters (with Paramount+) if its continuing to retain/bring in paying subscribers; and per Paramount+ all the current Star Trek shows are routinely the most watched content on the platform. As long as that holds; and as you said, the ROI/Production cost ratio stays within a certain range that CBS/Paramount is happy with - they'll keep producing the show.

They also know there is STILL people watching Over The Air/Satellite/Cable (plus they aired the first season of STD on CBS during the Pandemic - and it did get decent ratings for a (at that time) 3 year old season that Has been available via various sources for a while (including Blu-Ray and DVD). <--- But my point? The more episodes the show has, the more attractive the syndication package for re-airing the show is to channels on these outlets, and it is something that also factored into the 'how long do we keep producing new episodes' equation.

 

[BillJ]

It also matters (with Paramount+) if its continuing to retain/bring in paying subscribers; and per Paramount+ all the current Star Trek shows are routinely the most watched content on the platform. As long as that holds; and as you said, the ROI/Production cost ratio stays within a certain range that CBS/Paramount is happy with - they'll keep producing the show.

Which is why I put "profitable" in quotation marks.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Cinderella Man and A Beautiful Mind were both stories by other people.

So's Star Trek in a way.

 

[The Wormhole]

A Stargazer/young Picard show was also rumoured.

My understanding is that it's rumored that Picard season 2 would have a subplot with a young Picard on the Stargazer that could serve as a springboard to a spinoff if the fan reaction is positive. Like how the positive fan reaction to Pike on Disco is now leading to SNW.

 

[Ometiklan]

A lack of 'gaps' to fill isn't what did in the Short Treks. They were discontinued because of the nature of the new protocols they have to follow to film anything during the COVID-19 pandemic...

Hmm, I haven't seen anyone say it was due to Covid protocols. Maybe it exacerbated it by decreasing the "cost effectiveness". But everything I have seen, they have said they used it to use existing assets between seasons/while new shows were stood up.

 

[Tuskin38]

Written and Directed by Akiva Goldsman...

Your point being? Only the pilot, not any of the other episodes that we know of.

 

[donners22]

A lack of 'gaps' to fill isn't what did in the Short Treks. They were discontinued because of the nature of the new protocols they have to follow to film anything during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The absence of a distribution deal may have been a factor as well.

 

[thribs]

I just wish we had someone like Filoni in charge who keeps the look of the shows consistent and actually adds substantial stuff to the lore, instead of the guy who completely messed up the Dark Universe.