Klingons

[Lord Garth]

Have they really been overused? Maybe. But let me put the question another way: have they been overused recently?

The Klingons haven't been a major focus in the Star Trek movies since 1991. 20 years ago.

 

[F. King Daniel]

TNG/DS9 Klingons are overused. Just take a look at the STXI deleted scenes - these Klingons aren't the TNG/DS9/ENT "Hulk smash!" variety. They're mean, but smart. Nero's interrogator never lost his temper, never went near the berserker rage of Worf, Martok, Duras and Gowron.

Also note how nuRomulans Nero and chums were nothing like the bowl-cut, shoulder-padded Romulans from TNG/DS9.

 

[DonIago]

Given that the only "recent" Trek has been a movie which didn't really involve the Klingons, I'm going to go with....no.

If we go back further we have ENT, which AFAIC ended several years ago and didn't use the Klingons particularly extensively, so...double no.

Going back even further we hit VOY, which had a half-Klingon as a primary crewmember but didn't particularly deal with the Klingons themselves...triple no!

 

[Gojira]

You can never have too many Klingons! I for one would love to see Trek's classic villains in the next movie (with ridges!!!!)

 

[Nerys Myk]

Its not how often, but how they are used that can grow tiresome.

 

[shapeshifter]

I want Nuverse Klingons to be as little used as the Romulans were used in Primeverse. I want this story to be all about the Romulans in the way Klingons were in the old.

They're off to a very good start, with clouding the Klingons appearance as they did. I hope they keep it up.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I want some well read, debonair Klingons like in ST:VI. Otherwise, I'm over them.

 

[Dukhat]

Its not how often, but how they are used that can grow tiresome.

^This.

The best thing ENT could have done was not have Klingons in the show at all, or if they absolutely positively HAD to have them, show them as the oily-skinned Fu-Manchu Klingons of TOS, in the style of Kor, Kang and Koloth. Instead we basically got the same Klingons from DS9, only more thuggish.

Nero's interrogator in the deleted scene was absolutely perfect. He exuded intelligence and well-procured speech, while still being essentially a Klingon torturer.

 

[Nowhere Man]

I agree with everything that has been said, but I do want to add that someone should pronounce it Klingins or Klinguns.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

How 'bout Kling-Gons, my personal favorite.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I want some well read, debonair Klingons like in ST:VI. Otherwise, I'm over them.

You mean guys who prattle on and on about the good bard, but can never conceive a real thought of their own?

Yeah, sure. Okay.

 

[Red Ranger]

You can never have enough Klingons! But here's a more important question: Will we see Kirk vs. Cardassians??

 

[Kegg]

How 'bout Kling-Gons, my personal favorite.

Cho's got some practicing to do.

Have they really been overused? Maybe. But let me put the question another way: have they been overused recently?

The Klingons haven't been a major focus in the Star Trek movies since 1991. 20 years ago.

They were a secondary focus in Generations; and a major component of Star Trek Deep Space Nine; continuing to have episodes devoted to them in Star Trek: Voyager, and lastly, having an arc devoted to their forehead bumps in the final year of Enterprise.

Rather then twenty years ago, one could also argue for simply five. The TV dates are important because it was their extensive use on The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine mostly that merit the claim they're overused.

All that said: They're the Klingons. If the new movie saga embraces going back to the iconic basic stuff that people remember and/or think they remember from the original TV show, it stands to reason that the Federation's arch-nemesis should get some screentime.

The logic of the new Star Trek movie seemed a little like those comic book movies, really; using a secondary villain race - the Romulans - in the origin story movie, leaving a more iconic baddie for a subsequent act. I'd bet good money if the Klingons aren't in XII, they're in XIII.

 

[Melete]

Sure. Let's have some Klingons. But get rid of these stupid helmets. They make their head look like a targ's. A Klingon would never wear a piece of equipment that would make him look like a pet!

 

[Set Harth]

Nero's interrogator in the deleted scene was absolutely perfect. He exuded intelligence and well-procured speech

That's Victor Garber for you.

 

[DonIago]

(blinks) Victor Garber plays a Klingon?

Damn, now I actually need to watch the deleted scenes. And hope he'll turn up in non-deleted footage at some point.

 

[F. King Daniel]

^The deleted scene with Garber (Nero's interrogator) is on YouTube in HD, in case you've only got the one-disc DVD.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

I want some well read, debonair Klingons like in ST:VI. Otherwise, I'm over them.

Me too. Those Klingons were da kewlz.

TNG/DS9 ones.... yawn. I thought, if I had to hear a crooked-toothed Klingon grunt anything about "honour" ever again, I'd have a screaming fit.

Luckily, I got over it.

But please, never use those Klingons again. Like, ever.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The old novels "The Final Reflection" and "Pawn and Symbols" gave two brilliant versions of the Klingons. Both were, IMO, better than what TNG came up with.

I've said this in other threads about Klingons, but I'd love to see Klingons with all types of bumps (TMP, TNG, STVI etc) as well as some smooth-headed "human fusions". I'd like the Klingons to treat the different Klingon types as equals (equal above all other species), kind-of giving Trek values to the baddies, too.

Also: "Final Reflection"-style slaves from conquered worlds in the background.

 

[EJA]

Regarding the deleted scenes from ST XI of the Klingons, what's the Klingon language like? Is it consistent with how it's been established by Marc Okrand in past Trek? I heard it, but I couldn't tell whether or not it was the same as before.