That is canon? Not a joke?More like there wasn't anyone to reel Goldsman in over his obsession with double Klingon dongs like there was for Roddenberry when he insisted Troi have three breasts.
Klingon redundancies
- Thread starter WarpFactorZ
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Troi actually having three breasts is not canon, no. At one point in development of TNG, Roddenberry did actually want her to, though. No joke. It was D.C. Fontana who convinced him to abandon the idea, as she relayed via Entertainment Weekly: "I objected to Troi having three breasts. I felt women have enough trouble with two. And how are you going to line them up? Vertically, horizontally, or what? I was like, please, don't go there. And they didn't, fortunately."
-MMoM
It was a dumb blink and you'll miss it sight gag. Not something that would be on screen every time you see a character or species. Probably won't be revisited.
But Roddenberry did manage to give Mariette Hartley two belly-buttons in GENESIS II.
Supposedly because her character had a double circulatory system, making her stronger, faster, etc.
The more things change . . . .
Take that, Broadcast Standards…!But Roddenberry did manage to give Mariette Hartley two belly-buttons in GENESIS II.
Supposedly because her character had a double circulatory system, making her stronger, faster, etc.
The more things change . . . .
Botht the males and the female Ferengi?
I think people are overthinking this. Poor Klingon just had an issue with his prostate.
I assume you said this once for each prostate?
(Haven't reached "Choose Your Pain" yet in your re-watch?)
-MMoM
I assume you said this once for each prostate?
Actually forgot I had commented. Getting old sucks.
I watched a bit of it last night. Didn't notice anything about multiple Klingon penises.
I was wondering if maybe there was something on your mind...Actually forgot I had commented. Getting old sucks.
LORCA: [mockingly, to L'Rell] I hear you're seeking solace in the arms of a human male. We don't even have the right number of organs for you. Why so hard-up?
-MMoM
Yeah, haven't made it that far into the episode.
Of course, in pure science fiction terms there's nothing wrong with either idea. In fact, there are creatures right here on Earth who have more than two teats, and also those with bifurcated male reproductive organs.
(I do agree with Fontana that forcing Marina Sirtis—or Denise Crosby, who was initially cast as Troi with Sirtis as Yar instead—to wear a redundant falsie every week could well have ended up looking a bit ridiculous and come off as somewhat degrading, though, so it's just as well the idea was dropped. How exactly does the present Klingon duality pose similar problems, though? It's not like they'll be whipping them out left and right, now, is it?)
-MMoM
Overall I don’t think it does. Personally it just seems a little silly (even for sci-fi...!) but mileage varies obviously. And as you say there’s precedent in earth’s nature for it so why not!
Can we all just take a second to appreciate the nuance of ‘whipping them out left *and* right’ here please? I love wordplay
Other than not fitting preconceived notions regarding Klingons it really doesn't present any problems, except maybe to slash fic writers.
One would be an uncomfortable, awkward looking, and distracting prosthesis that would be literally front and center on a main character in every episode, would require specialized costumes, and was only there to tickle Gene's Rodandberries, because bewbs.
One would be a ridiculously oversized codpiece on a tiny species that basically looked like big-eared Mini-Me's in that step of the development process (because Goddenberry was obsessed with dicks too) that would make them impossible to take seriously as an adversary.
And the last is a two-second blink and you'll miss it scene that didn't show anything and doesn't require a prosthesis or require any external changes, and plays off existing lore about Klingon redundancies.
That's a pretty big difference, whatever the motives behind them were.
Could be "up and down" too.Can we all just take a second to appreciate the nuance of ‘whipping them out left *and* right’ here please? I love wordplay
Fitting rather well with some preconceived notions of them, actually.
And speaking of slash fic, weird alien penises in Trek should by all rights be right up their alley! (Pun not intended, but I take them as they come...and there's another one! Double the puns, double the pleasure!)
This encyclopedic rundown of the various (and sundry) treatments of Vulcan genitalia in Trek fanfic over the decades is a "fun" (if not entirely safe for work) read:
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Vulcan_Genitalia
Excerpt:
In The World of Star Trek (Ballantine, 1973), David Gerrold wrote about what he felt to be bizarre fan letters received by the creators of the show. Among them was a missive several pages long from an older woman who very carefully explained that she was married and this was not prurient interest, but that as red-blooded creatures have pink extremities, what she wanted to know about Spock -- "with reference to particular extremities -- if they were green." Gerrold added, "Yes, they," and added that the letter had been passed around for laughs and "idle speculation around the set had it that the particular extremity this woman was inquiring about was forked."
In her book On The Good Ship Enterprise, Bjo Trimble said her husband saw the letter and understood that "they" to referred to testicles, not anything more exotic. However, fan speculation about Spock's sexual anatomy probably started with, and was influenced by the highly publicized "they," of that letter...
...of course, they rather ended up doing that anyway!
-MMoM
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