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Klingon redundancies

Klingons have two stomachs? Big deal! Our cows have four!!!

Don't tell me that Klingon cows have eight stomachs! That would be insane.


I bet Klingon cows are predators and they eat live meat! Everything Klingon does.
Tribbles. Klingon cows eat tribbles.
 
Klingons have two stomachs? Big deal! Our cows have four!!!

Don't tell me that Klingon cows have eight stomachs! That would be insane.


I bet Klingon cows are predators and they eat live meat! Everything Klingon does.
This does make me wonder how the redundant organs handle load-balancing and certain medical conditions. For example, do both hearts pump equal amounts of blood? When you go to the bathroom, do you poop and pee out of both sets of the respective organs, or just one of them? What about certain ailments, like digestive disorders or blood pressure issues - If you have high blood pressure or something, how do physicians diagnose or even treat the source of it? And how in the hell do doctors even begin to address random aches and pains when they have twice as many organs to deal with?
 
This does make me wonder how the redundant organs handle load-balancing and certain medical conditions. For example, do both hearts pump equal amounts of blood? When you go to the bathroom, do you poop and pee out of both sets of the respective organs, or just one of them? What about certain ailments, like digestive disorders or blood pressure issues - If you have high blood pressure or something, how do physicians diagnose or even treat the source of it? And how in the hell do doctors even begin to address random aches and pains when they have twice as many organs to deal with?

Not to mention that Klingon doctors are lousy if we are to believe Martok, and he doesn't seem like the kind to complain about booboos.
 
I think I speculated somewhere before (in another thread?) that Klingons should really have two faces.

As far as redundant sensory organs go, the DisKlingons must have a really great sense of smell, what with that weird double nostril thing going on.

Kor
 
I think I speculated somewhere before (in another thread?) that Klingons should really have two faces.

As far as redundant sensory organs go, the DisKlingons must have a really great sense of smell, what with that weird double nostril thing going on.

Kor

Q: How does a Klingon smell with two pairs of nostrils and all that?

A: Awful.

:hugegrin:
 
Shakespeare would have been *very* different in the original Klingon if that were true...

It just seems odd that something like the excretory organs would be duplicated but not sensory ones. I could understand Klingons evolving redundant stomachs, lungs, heart chambers, etc. to make them more efficient in battle and so forth but if Klingon Mother Nature was going to duplicate everything, why didn’t she? They have four nostrils now - why not redundant eyes that swivel round when one is damaged? And why did Chang opt not to use his redundant eye? Did he just want to look intimidating with his eye patch and secretly all the other Klingons were like “what an idiot he’s got a spare he just wants us to think he’s cool all eyepatch and quoting Shakespeare and whatnot”...
it depends on the nature of the damage to the nerves, I would imagine.
For example, do both hearts pump equal amounts of blood?
There is only one heart, but it has 8 chambers as its redundancy.

I think I speculated somewhere before (in another thread?) that Klingons should really have two faces.

As far as redundant sensory organs go, the DisKlingons must have a really great sense of smell, what with that weird double nostril thing going on.

Kor
As a predator species it would be advantageous.
 
Or then the nostrils are (sometimes) split as an unfortunate side effect of tampering with the gene that gives the mighty warriors that extra shin-ripping claw?

Timo Saloniemi
 
If the Klingons have twice as many organs as we do and since we are filled with organs (no holes inside our bodies), doesn't that mean that these organs are much smaller than ours? That's something to think about. BTW, do they have two brains too? It's better to have one big brain than two small ones!
 
...Where does this "they must have two of everything" thing come from? That's not what the dialogue establishes about the redundancy involved in brak'lul - and not a likely situation considering even Worf's doctor wasn't aware of it!

Timo Saloniemi
 
...Where does this "they must have two of everything" thing come from? That's not what the dialogue establishes about the redundancy involved in brak'lul - and not a likely situation considering even Worf's doctor wasn't aware of it!

Timo Saloniemi

I'd change doctors if I were him...
 
Admittedly, she was the Visiting Evil Bitch character, entitled to ignorance and other vices.

How Crusher phrases it tells of redundancies in functions, not of backing up of organs by duplicates:

"Unnecessary? The Klingons refer to it as the brak'lul. Almost every vital function in their bodies has a built-in redundancy in case any primary organ or system fails."

Sounds a bit like the gall bladder could take over if the kidneys underperform, not that there would be six kidneys.

What the Visiting Villainess says is telling, too:

"Twenty three ribs, two livers, eight-chambered heart, double-lined neural pia mater."

If there were also two brains or two stomachs or three lungs, one would think those would make it to this list...

...Although evidently, two of those items were, and did not!

Should we perhaps accept that Worf did not have three lungs, while Torres possibly did not have two livers?

Timo Saloniemi
 
If the Klingons have twice as many organs as we do and since we are filled with organs (no holes inside our bodies), doesn't that mean that these organs are much smaller than ours? That's something to think about. BTW, do they have two brains too? It's better to have one big brain than two small ones!
That's not how this works. Redundancy simply means that there is a backup in case of primary system loss. So, it could mean smaller organs, or organs that can double up in times of crisis.

So, we don't need to double down on everything in Klingon anatomy.
 
That's not how this works. Redundancy simply means that there is a backup in case of primary system loss. So, it could mean smaller organs, or organs that can double up in times of crisis.

So, we don't need to double down on everything in Klingon anatomy.
Umm... yes we do... this is Star Trek and if we can't take a handful of throw away references and argue about them for years, what is wrong with us?
 
... BTW, do they have two brains too? It's better to have one big brain than two small ones!

Perhaps Klingons have a "butt brain," an extra bundle of nerves near the posterior, like we used to think that some dinosaurs may have had (this is not the current thinking in palentology, in case anyone was wondering).

Kor
 
Perhaps Klingons have a "butt brain," an extra bundle of nerves near the posterior, like we used to think that some dinosaurs may have had (this is not the current thinking in palentology, in case anyone was wondering).

Kor

Coincidentally, that's where some people seem to have their only brain...
 
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