Kirk dies alone

[c0rnedfr0g]

Several times in STV, it is mentioned that Kirk will die alone. Does this just mean without Bones and Spock? What qualifies as alone? Scotty and Chekov were on the bridge of the E-B in the Nexus (as well as many crew), and Picard was with him on Veridiian III. How alone did he think he needed to be?

 

[GodThingFormerly]

What qualifies as alone?

Getting spaced by a defective starship crapper?

TGT

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

To me, Kirk did die alone. He died on an unknown alein world in a time period sixty-eighty years in what would be his personal future. Sure, Picard and Soran were there, but they were both essentially strangers to him.

 

[Shatmandu]

If the line were, "I knew I wouldn't die, because I didn't have a metal bar shoved up my ass and a bald guy watching," it wouldn't have as much impact.

Joe, meta

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Then again...it could be argued that Spock was sort of there because he mind-melded with Captain Picard.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

We all die alone.

 

[Saxman1]

"Generations" never happened. TNG ended with "All Good Things," at least in MY personal cannon.

 

[McCoy]

I think Newspaper Taxi is right. I think he meant without Spock and McCoy and his other shipmates. I believe when he said in ST:V that he knew he wouldn't die because he wasn't alone it was a way of saying that when his friends are there he is confident that they will be able to save him.

 

[Good Will Riker]

When most people say that, it usually means either 2 things:

1.) They are completely alone and by themselves when it transpires.

2.) They are not married and single and have no one to love in their lives when it happens.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Even though i thought kirks death in Generations was nothing more than a gimmick to get bums on seats at the cinema(and yes i was one of those bums), at least the character died doing something he had always done, putting himself in harms way to save others.

Its small consolation but at least its there.

 

[Good Will Riker]

Even though i thought kirks death in Generations was nothing more than a gimmick to get bums on seats at the cinema(and yes i was one of those bums), at least the character died doing something he had always done, putting himself in harms way to save others.

Its small consolation but at least its there.

So, in otherwords, you only "tolerated" Kirk's death scene in Generations.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Even though i thought kirks death in Generations was nothing more than a gimmick to get bums on seats at the cinema(and yes i was one of those bums), at least the character died doing something he had always done, putting himself in harms way to save others.

Its small consolation but at least its there.

So, in otherwords, you only "tolerated" Kirk's death scene in Generations.

I would not say i tolerated it,i hated it, but its done and gone, all that can be done is look at the positives of kirks death, saving a planet and everybody on it.

 

[Jax]

I had no problem with his death because I hate how certian characters survivie the most outnumbered odds over and over again. He always wanted to die doing his job and not growing old so first he saves the Enterprise then saves a planet plus Enterprise-D.

 

[dave_R_treker]

To me it wasn't the fact that he was killed in Generations its how he was just left there buried on that planet. He wasn't given the proper burial. Ok he may have been honored back on Earth when he was beleaved to have been killed. But still. That was no way to treat a man who has saved Earth and the entire Federation countless times. If he was going to be left somewhere it should have been in a torpedo capsule, IN SPACE.

 

[FalTorPan]

Just because a person "knows" something will happens doesn't mean that it's actually going to happen. Not everyone is a Londo Mollari.

 

[DonIago]

To me it wasn't the fact that he was killed in Generations its how he was just left there buried on that planet. He wasn't given the proper burial. Ok he may have been honored back on Earth when he was beleaved to have been killed. But still. That was no way to treat a man who has saved Earth and the entire Federation countless times. If he was going to be left somewhere it should have been in a torpedo capsule, IN SPACE.

Other than Picard's little rock pile (not large enough for a body), I don't see any evidence to support the argument that Kirk "was just left there buried on that planet."

 

[dave_R_treker]

To me it wasn't the fact that he was killed in Generations its how he was just left there buried on that planet. He wasn't given the proper burial. Ok he may have been honored back on Earth when he was beleaved to have been killed. But still. That was no way to treat a man who has saved Earth and the entire Federation countless times. If he was going to be left somewhere it should have been in a torpedo capsule, IN SPACE.

Other than Picard's little rock pile (not large enough for a body), I don't see any evidence to support the argument that Kirk "was just left there buried on that planet."

I know this isn't canon but in Star Trek The Return by William Shatner his body was found there by Romulans and Borg.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

To me it wasn't the fact that he was killed in Generations its how he was just left there buried on that planet. He wasn't given the proper burial. Ok he may have been honored back on Earth when he was beleaved to have been killed. But still. That was no way to treat a man who has saved Earth and the entire Federation countless times. If he was going to be left somewhere it should have been in a torpedo capsule, IN SPACE.

Other than Picard's little rock pile (not large enough for a body), I don't see any evidence to support the argument that Kirk "was just left there buried on that planet."

I know this isn't canon but in Star Trek The Return by William Shatner his body was found there by Romulans and Borg.

I loved that book, great read.....

 

[Praetor]

To me, Kirk did die alone. He died on an unknown alein world in a time period sixty-eighty years in what would be his personal future. Sure, Picard and Soran were there, but they were both essentially strangers to him.

Ditto.

 

[James Bond]

To me it wasn't the fact that he was killed in Generations its how he was just left there buried on that planet. He wasn't given the proper burial. Ok he may have been honored back on Earth when he was beleaved to have been killed. But still. That was no way to treat a man who has saved Earth and the entire Federation countless times. If he was going to be left somewhere it should have been in a torpedo capsule, IN SPACE.

I thought Kirk's death and burial scene was rather poignant.