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Kirk and Spock's relationship

Keep in mind the movie will probably be PG rated, so I don't think we'll see the Kirk/Spock relationship we'd all want to see.

;)
 
I think the relationship between Kirk and Spock should be treated as it always has been... without any gay subtext other than that projected onto them by certain members of the audience.
 
Number6 said:
Keep in mind the movie will probably be PG rated, so I don't think we'll see the Kirk/Spock relationship we'd all want to see.

Well, obviously their relationship should remain secondary to the plot. And I certainly didn't imply that the depiction should be graphical. I just think this is the right time to elaborate om something that was clearly present in the 60s series and 80s movies, and touched upon by the Great Bird himself in his novelisation of TMP. And my own preference is for this to be done within the bounds of canon.
 
I am a traditionalist; they should have a wholly platonic relationship in the movie and eventual TV series, but Abrams must take special care to cast actors who will be eminently slashable regardless of what the script has them doing so that people can read untoward things into innocent scenes where they play multidimensional chess, fight Klingons or hang around talking about sports and chicks (he's got it more than half done already, if he can't find some guy who has abundant sexual tension with Zach Quinto, I'm going to suspect deliberate sabotage); anyone who is so inclined can get a bellyfull of slashy angst and mpreg follies via fanfic, as per usual, and everyone else can hold their noses and steadfastly ignore such things. ;) The system has worked for decades, why frak with it now?
 
dalehoppert said:I think the relationship between Kirk and Spock should be treated as it always has been... without any gay subtext other than that projected onto them by certain members of the audience.
Absolutely correct.
 
The romantic tension should be resolved at the end of the movie.

... that would explain their later, er, restraint. :D
 
Temis the Vorta said:
The system has worked for decades, why frak with it now?

Well, at least part of the idea of a reimagining is to retell the story, and update it for contemporary sensibilities.
 
Zero Hour said:
Temis the Vorta said:
The system has worked for decades, why frak with it now?

Well, at least part of the idea of a reimagining is to retell the story, and update it for contemporary sensibilities.
So... are you saying you're actually SERIOUS?!?!?
 
dalehoppert said:
I think the relationship between Kirk and Spock should be treated as it always has been... without any gay subtext other than that projected onto them by certain members of the audience.

Bingo.
 
Plum said:
The romantic tension should be resolved at the end of the movie.

... that would explain their later, er, restraint. :D

Oh, like both of them think they're gay and then after they give way to their feelings, they realize they're straight?
Still not buying it.
 
Zero Hour said:
Temis the Vorta said:
The system has worked for decades, why frak with it now?

Well, at least part of the idea of a reimagining is to retell the story, and update it for contemporary sensibilities.

From what I've seen, the whole K/S thing fits contemporary sensibilities of fans just fine, left where it is: up to the imaginations of those who choose to see it.

And since we're being serious, okay. I'll try my best. :D There are a hell of a lot of people who have been having loads of fun with K/S ever since, well I guess shortly after the show went off the air if they weren't doin' it during the show's run. There's no reason they can't continue to have fun, and the new guys would probably inject new life into it.

For the gay subtext to be literal in any regard would ruin it for the K/S fans. The point of slash is that the fans own it because they create it. Yeah people pretend it's "really" there, but everyone knows it isn't. That's the way they want it; that's the way it should be. Everyone wins. The people who like slash get what they want; the people who would rather poke out their eyes can just ignore it.

At most, Trek should do what Heroes does: deliberately create scenarios that the slash fans will jump right on, but not literal enough to disturb anyone else. You do this by casting the right people, writing the right stuff, and knowing how far is too far.
 
Clearly it should be the central theme:

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I'm sorry this whole gay thing is a total joke. Kirk's middle name should be 'Tomcat' he bedded practially every female he met. Spock was also totally hetro.
Give it a break!
 
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Seriously, why can't two men be good friends without other people projecting homosexuality onto it? I realize this thread is half-joking to begin with, but the whole thing strikes me as pretty shallow. :rolleyes:
 
This is a hilarious post :guffaw:
p.s i want Spock and Kirk give themselves big french kiss at the end of XI movie.
 
The idea that there IS any "romantic tension" between Kirk and Spock is laughable... fanboy wish fulfillment stuff from a small subsection of the fanbase who, evidently, want to have a threesome involving both of these characters???
 
Cary L. Brown said:
The idea that there IS any "romantic tension" between Kirk and Spock is laughable... fanboy wish fulfillment stuff from a small subsection of the fanbase who, evidently, want to have a threesome involving both of these characters???

:guffaw: Well put.

If there are folks who sincerely see sexual tension between Kirk and Spock, so be it. I've never seen it.

It's true that Kirk and Spock became closer than many brothers are. Love is a broad concept. Brothers love each other. But romantic love? Please.
 
Trevok said:
I'm sorry this whole gay thing is a total joke. Kirk's middle name should be 'Tomcat' he bedded practially every female he met. Spock was also totally hetro.
Give it a break!


The only time Kirk swayed from the "straight" path was when he kissed the shapeshifter - in the guise of himself!! Think that says it all! :lol:
 
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