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Killing off Colonel Young

Joe Washington

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Killing Colonel Young on Stargate Universe could alter the dynamics of the characters onboard Destiny in major ways. And no one would expect a heroic leader like him getting killed off before the show could come to an end.

What do you guys think?
 
Kill him. I don't like the actor.

Overall, the actors are pretty meh. But really what you need to do is kill the writers and producers. That's where the problem lies. Keep the fat kid, kill the rest, start from scratch.
 
Killing Young and putting Rush in charge would be a massive improvement. But Temis is right, we need to get rid of the writers and producers so new people with good ideas can take over.
 
Kill him. I don't like the actor.

Overall, the actors are pretty meh. But really what you need to do is kill the writers and producers. That's where the problem lies. Keep the fat kid, kill the rest, start from scratch.
We need to keep Dr Rush has well.
 
Killing the cast didn't fix Atlantis's problems, and it won't fix SGU's.

Killing the cast caused most of Atlantis' problems, beginning with the introduction of Ronan and really going downhill at the end of season three.

Honestly, at this point, I don't know if killing off a bunch of characters will improve the series. Babylon 5 swapped out leads, but it had already laid down much of the groundwork for the Shadow War and the Earth Civil War by the end of the first season. SGU hasn't laid down much of anything.
 
The problem with killing Young and putting Rush in charge is that Rush is insane. Without someone to keep him in check, there is no possible direction for it to go other than him killing everyone For Science!
 
The problem with killing Young and putting Rush in charge is that Rush is insane. Without someone to keep him in check, there is no possible direction for it to go other than him killing everyone For Science!
He isn't insane. He's actually the most consistently competent person in the whole show and the only one who has any consideration for the long term, which apparently means that he's a bad person by the show's logic.
 
At this point I no longer care who dies. I just want to see what happens with the ship, were it goes, and what it finds.
 
The problem with killing Young and putting Rush in charge is that Rush is insane. Without someone to keep him in check, there is no possible direction for it to go other than him killing everyone For Science!
He isn't insane. He's actually the most consistently competent person in the whole show and the only one who has any consideration for the long term, which apparently means that he's a bad person by the show's logic.

No, he's insane. It's just that his insanity is masked by his rationality and reasonableness.

Really, he only cares about the Destiny. He doesn't want to hurt any of the other people there, he might even genuinely like some of them, but if push comes to shove he will always choose the Destiny over them. This was obvious in the very first episode.

When he saw his chance to get aboard Destiny slipping away he intentionally sabotaged and redirected the evacuation efforts. If not for Rush, everyone would be safe at home on Earth right now. He wanted to get to Destiny, everyone else be damned. He didn't care if any of them were hurt or killed. He didn't care that they would probably never go home again.
Or maybe he did care. But he didn't care enough to stop himself from stranding them on the edge of the known universe with insufficient equipment and no way home.

Rush isn't thinking about their long-term survival. He is thinking about Destiny's long-term survival. Right now those two mostly coincide. There will come a time when it doesn't, and when that time comes he will let them all die or even kill them all himself to protect Destiny.

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The problem with killing Young and putting Rush in charge is that Rush is insane. Without someone to keep him in check, there is no possible direction for it to go other than him killing everyone For Science!
He isn't insane. He's actually the most consistently competent person in the whole show and the only one who has any consideration for the long term, which apparently means that he's a bad person by the show's logic.

No, he's insane. It's just that his insanity is masked by his rationality and reasonableness.

Really, he only cares about the Destiny. He doesn't want to hurt any of the other people there, he might even genuinely like some of them, but if push comes to shove he will always choose the Destiny over them. This was obvious in the very first episode.

When he saw his chance to get aboard Destiny slipping away he intentionally sabotaged and redirected the evacuation efforts. If not for Rush, everyone would be safe at home on Earth right now. He wanted to get to Destiny, everyone else be damned. He didn't care if any of them were hurt or killed. He didn't care that they would probably never go home again.
Or maybe he did care. But he didn't care enough to stop himself from stranding them on the edge of the known universe with insufficient equipment and no way home.

Rush isn't thinking about their long-term survival. He is thinking about Destiny's long-term survival. Right now those two mostly coincide. There will come a time when it doesn't, and when that time comes he will let them all die or even kill them all himself to protect Destiny.
Based on the fact that the people were getting tossed out of the gate just like O'Neill got tossed out the gate in The Fifth Race, it is clear that the Icarus gate was dealing with an unstable power supply. Since the planet was blowing up due to an uncontrolled chain reaction and the gate was configured to draw power directly from the core, everyone would've been tossed out like Daniel was in Solitude, the episode where the Antarctic gate was discovered, had Rush dialed any 7 chevron address or possibly even an 8 chevron one, which would've resulted in everyone suffering severe injuries and possibly get killed when the explosion translated through the gate. The several orders of magnitude difference between a gate connection within our galaxy, a nearby galaxy, and a galaxy billions of light years away was crucial to the Icarus personnel's survival.
 
I figured the being-thrown-out had more to do with the distance involved (and the fact that they intentionally had to use a bad point of origin fix, deliberately causing the same error that made for the rough ride in the movie and first few episodes of SG-1) than the crazy power requirements. And the gate just shut down rather than letting any of the explosion through once the planet went up. Young was right; If Rush seriously believed that it was an unacceptable risk to dial Earth and that the explosion had a chance of blasting the receiving gate outright (instead of just translating through so it could be stopped by the iris), he could've dialed any other planet. It wouldn't even have to be another Earth base, like the Alpha Site; they probably all know a couple of planets that are uninhabited but safe in case they need to divert somewhere that isn't home for whatever reason.
 
All this technobabble speculations. If Rush and Young ever asked council or told anybody anything before their grand plan plays out nobody would be calling for their deaths
 
I hope they don't kill him.

We both think he's really hot - especially the new curly hair!!!

:drool: :drool: :drool:


If anybody nneds to be killed off(badly)it's the insipid little bitch daughter of the Yesterday's Enterprise guy.

She is a complete waste of space.
 
Chloe should be made the ship tramp/whore and go around providing oral and other services for the stressed out men. Its prolly the best thing she could do to contribute since she has no other defining talents...
 
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