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Spoilers Kerblam! grade and discussion thread

How do you rate Kerblam!?


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The Doctor probably has bank accounts all over the Universe. S/he could just gone back in time and invest a little money here and there and lived off the interest.
 
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I'll bite. Do tell. I want to hear this.

So, basically, the fusion of the Doctor and Donna's minds is this big universe-shaking event, right? It sends ripples backwards through time, sets up its own creation, all that stuff. The issue is, the decisive moment isn't all that decisive. The Doctor, Rose, Jack, and Donna are all in the TARDIS on the Dalek space station. They all walk out, except Donna, who pauses only because she has a premonition, and then is locked inside the TARDIS, its dropped into the space-lava, hand starts glowing, bing-bang-boom. The problem I have is, there's no reason for it to be Donna, except that it was going to be Donna. There would've been no difference to the past if it had been Rose or Jack who stayed behind and ended up combining with the Doctor, except they would've been the ones who spent the last episode getting strange headaches and the Ood's odd pronouncement would just be an odd pronouncement.

My reasoning was that it suggested there was some other connection between the Doctor and Donna, some reason why what happened would work with the two of them, but not with Jack or Rose. The Doctor is secretly, possibly, half human on his mother's side. The Doctor was apparently orphaned or somehow stricken and traumatized at a very young age. He once made a comment about how there was nothing in the universe a scared little boy wouldn't do to find his mother. I believe there were a couple other bits I drew on about the Doctor's childhood and mother from the first four seasons, but a lot of the details of the RTD era have faded. Anyway, the upshot is, Donna eventually falls in love with a dashing man from space, moves to Gallifrey, has a son who eventually reminds her of the man he's going to grow into, her brain explodes, the Doctor is traumatized and outcast because of it (because Gallifrey doesn't have a good cultural basis around death, since nobody hardly ever dies), even having a bit of guilt perhaps because of having caused her death, even if he doesn't know how. And, later/earlier, the Force or the Time Vortex or whatever damn thing starts giving Donna headaches because, thanks to their familiar relationship, she's the only one who can fuse with the Doctor under the current circumstances.

This was mostly ruled out the following year with "The End of Time," where Donna marries a man who looks nothing like William Hartnell, we learn that seeing anything even remotely spacey-wacey, like three identical men in weird clothing, is enough to make her head explode, so there's no way she'd be able to move to another planet, and her head exploding is not only not actually fatal, it undoes itself instantly. But it was fun while it lasted!
 
So, basically, the fusion of the Doctor and Donna's minds is this big universe-shaking event, right? It sends ripples backwards through time, sets up its own creation, all that stuff. The issue is, the decisive moment isn't all that decisive. The Doctor, Rose, Jack, and Donna are all in the TARDIS on the Dalek space station. They all walk out, except Donna, who pauses only because she has a premonition, and then is locked inside the TARDIS, its dropped into the space-lava, hand starts glowing, bing-bang-boom. The problem I have is, there's no reason for it to be Donna, except that it was going to be Donna. There would've been no difference to the past if it had been Rose or Jack who stayed behind and ended up combining with the Doctor, except they would've been the ones who spent the last episode getting strange headaches and the Ood's odd pronouncement would just be an odd pronouncement.

My reasoning was that it suggested there was some other connection between the Doctor and Donna, some reason why what happened would work with the two of them, but not with Jack or Rose. The Doctor is secretly, possibly, half human on his mother's side. The Doctor was apparently orphaned or somehow stricken and traumatized at a very young age. He once made a comment about how there was nothing in the universe a scared little boy wouldn't do to find his mother. I believe there were a couple other bits I drew on about the Doctor's childhood and mother from the first four seasons, but a lot of the details of the RTD era have faded. Anyway, the upshot is, Donna eventually falls in love with a dashing man from space, moves to Gallifrey, has a son who eventually reminds her of the man he's going to grow into, her brain explodes, the Doctor is traumatized and outcast because of it (because Gallifrey doesn't have a good cultural basis around death, since nobody hardly ever dies), even having a bit of guilt perhaps because of having caused her death, even if he doesn't know how. And, later/earlier, the Force or the Time Vortex or whatever damn thing starts giving Donna headaches because, thanks to their familiar relationship, she's the only one who can fuse with the Doctor under the current circumstances.

This was mostly ruled out the following year with "The End of Time," where Donna marries a man who looks nothing like William Hartnell, we learn that seeing anything even remotely spacey-wacey, like three identical men in weird clothing, is enough to make her head explode, so there's no way she'd be able to move to another planet, and her head exploding is not only not actually fatal, it undoes itself instantly. But it was fun while it lasted!


That is crazy, a bit insane, and I like it.
 
Another reason that UNIT would put money into the Doctors account, is to track where and when s/he withdraws funds.
 
Nice take on the "base under siege". Good surprise villain. Not shocked, but so unhappy that they killed Kira.
 
nah - you're forgetting the Doctor was UNIT's unpaid scientific advisor.

Kate Lethbridge-Stewart: "Welcome to the only planet in existence where we get to say this: 'He's on the payroll!'"

The Doctor: "I am?!"

Kate: "Yes"

Doctor: "How much?"

Kate: "Sshh!"

They might pay him in jelly babies, however.
 
Other beings have materialised inside the TARDIS before, normally ones that exist as energy. The Kerblam man was a teleport pattern, using the same vortex paths to travel the galaxy.

Or the TARDIS simply remembered putting the order in and she let him beam aboard as the Doctor had forgotten.

The Tardis has an awfully large letterbox. Ultimately someone always says ‘alright junk bot, you win’.
 
This one was a lot of fun. I was hoping they could rescue Kira in time, because she was just so sweet, and I couldn't endorse the "system" in its decision to kill her to prove a point. Overall, though, the episode was a very good one. I hope this kind of story telling continues.

Oh, and I mentally replaced "Kerblam!" with "Amazon" every time. Automatically.
 
I cried........ Kira was such a sweety. She died. Made me sad because I remembered Lynda with a Y.. She died too.

Remember on the moon when 10 was on the pull?

He was actively classifying the companionworthiness of the terrified humans who had just been abducted by space rhinos...

Kira was sweet, distractedly pretty but extremely passive.

It's unlikey she had the steel to survive any 42 minute adventure in time and space.

That being said, if the producers wanted the actress to stick around, then they wouldn't have written her character as chum.

I liked Lynda on Marley's Ghosts.

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Finally saw this episode today.

Loved it! Creepy robots are always cool.

-1 point because I do not like the new Tardis interior.

“9”
 
I really enjoyed this episode. It had a very nuWho feel to it; I could easily see this being a 10 or 11 story. I loved the fez scene at the beginning and the Doctor's reaction, though why is she asking her new companions if it's "Still me?" (assuming she's asking if the fez still suits her). It's not like they have any prior experience with the Doctor wearing a fez; it's almost as if the question was directed more towards us than Graham, Ryan or Yaz. I was surprised Kira was killed off -- thought for sure they were going to rescue her in time!
 
Now that's more like it! It was nice to have a good old fashioned space adventure after the last few slower-paced episodes.
 
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