I agree. I'm fine with the Kelvin Enterprise bridge, but I'd have much prefered this. However, If Discovery brings in the Connies I hope they use this concept art design and give some minor tweaks to fight right at home with Prime aesthetics.
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The Warp 5 core was used as backup, if they ever needed to detach the secondary hull in an emergency. It was on Standby. Same reason for the saucer deflector.
I don't see how, it is very solid.
Its tacked on, the hull is not designed for it. Under stress, the add on will buckle first as its not designed from the ground up like that. It will always be a weak point.
What Warp 5 reactor? the novels indicate the old engineering space was cleared out.
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She has one Warp 7 reactor in the secondary hull. Part of the refit was gutting the engineering/shuttlebay area and rebuilding.
And the Rise of the Federation novels indicate warp 7 travel was tough at first, especially trying to use shields and other alien tech at warp, two deflectors helped.
I got that info about the Warp Core from Doug Drexler's blogs on the development of the design. I guess the novels ignored that bit.
Also I don't think that MSD is 'canon' to the books?
It has more connections to the rest of the hull then the Connie's does, original and refit.
No, but it is based on the descriptions given from the text. The second Romulan War novel and first RotF one give us an idea of the changes made to her and Endeavour.
No, it wasn't. In the NX-class refit configuration, the former engineering space was used for expanded senior officers' quarters.
Kemaiku already explained that to me.
My info was outdated. That fact was conceived by Doug Drexler when he designed the refit (and I think is also mentioned in the Starship Magazine issue)
I guess the novels ignored it.
But its an add on man. They just wielded to a hull, it can never have the same amount of support as something designed and built like that. It will always be a weak point.
How do you know they didn't reinforce it?
From the description we got, it sounds like they took apart entire areas of the ship and manufactured new (and large singular) support pieces like the pylons and rebuilt the smaller stuff around it after.
Very drastic changes for front line ships during a war, but there you go.
Very drastic changes for front line ships during a war, but there you go.
I simply do not see how they could. It would be easier and cheaper to build a new ship than totally redesign an old one like that. And new ones like that will always be better.
In the novels at least, only one NX-Class was actually refit, the rest were built from the ground up like that.
This design isn't canon so you don't need to worry about it.
Well, Enterprise was retrofitted, it's implied Endeavour always was but it's not entirely clear.
The Columbia class is being built at a rate of 2 every two years (since the NX class takes 18 months to 2 years to build given Broken Bow, First Flight, the novels and Dougs blog). Staggered between multiple shipyards now, so yeah they did decide it was easier to build them new.
But they needed to see if the design worked first, retrofitting two NX's worked out cheaper or faster.
Love the NX-refit and wish we would have seen it on the show. The secondary hull looks positively retro and I love the way the nacelle pylons are elongated along the same angles to meet in the middle. Always struck me as a very natural progression of the ship's design that – in-universe – was always "meant to happen".
I thought the NX-01 was retired before being refit to Columbia Class specs in the novels?
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