Keep Kirk dead until Beyond?

[DarKush]

As much as I like Pine in the role, I would've made Kirk dead dead in Into Darkness. It's an alternate reality, and I think they could've played with that more. So, Spock would become captain and I would've introduced a new, female first officer (perhaps Janice Lester?) in the next film. And maybe had some sparks between Spock and Lester, which causes tensions between Spock and Uhura.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Interesting thought, but I think that would have been an unpopular choice. Kirk didn't have the combination of the Genesis "get out of death free" card/katra vessel Bones like Spock did in the prime universe, so they had to find another way to revive him.

 

[F. King Daniel]

After Into Darkness I was sure the next movie would have had Kirk turning bad due to the Khan blood and ended with a remix of the "Amok Time" fight. Even more so when I saw the ID deleted scene of Kirk and the little girl sharing a look at the end. The movie could have started with the little girl going psycho at school, Kirk becoming more and more unhinged and flying off to be a despotic madman with super strength.... so many possibilities.

 

[Set Harth]

I never heard of that scene, is it on the disc?

 

[M'Sharak]

After Into Darkness I was sure the next movie would have had Kirk turning bad due to the Khan blood and ended with a remix of the "Amok Time" fight. Even more so when I saw the ID deleted scene of Kirk and the little girl sharing a look at the end. The movie could have started with the little girl going psycho at school, Kirk becoming more and more unhinged and flying off to be a despotic madman with super strength.... so many possibilities.

I'm not so sure.

We know transfused blood can carry resistance to disease, so it's not a huge stretch to suppose a further potential to transmit resistance to injury / trauma or [capacity for] more rapid healing. We've also known for a long time that a transfusion of infected blood can carry that infection to the recipient.

But causing someone to "go psycho" / become a despotic madman, NOT as a result of disease? That really would be magic.

The Hands of Orlac (1924) - Reference View - IMDb
Hands of a Stranger (1962) - Reference View - IMDb
Young Frankenstein (1974) - Abby Normal scene - YouTube

 

[fireproof78]

After Into Darkness I was sure the next movie would have had Kirk turning bad due to the Khan blood and ended with a remix of the "Amok Time" fight. Even more so when I saw the ID deleted scene of Kirk and the little girl sharing a look at the end. The movie could have started with the little girl going psycho at school, Kirk becoming more and more unhinged and flying off to be a despotic madman with super strength.... so many possibilities.

Wow. That sounds terrible and a bit of an anti-science tinge to it, since blood based therapies are very common.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Unless there's something about the augmentation process that can cause madness/hostility. Was McCoy joking when he asked Kirk, "Tell me, are you feeling homicidal? Power mad? Despotic?" It sounded jokey, but there might be an undercurrent of seriousness in it.

 

[Ovation]

Unless there's something about the augmentation process that can cause madness/hostility. Was McCoy joking when he asked Kirk, "Tell me, are you feeling homicidal? Power mad? Despotic?" It sounded jokey, but there might be an undercurrent of seriousness in it.

Nah. It’s just a sarcastic quip from a character known to make them routinely.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I guess any latent seriousness can be attributed to "we almost lost you".

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Would Into Darkness have worked better if Kirk had stayed dead at the end, with Spock in command, and Kirk had only been revived what later became Beyond?

No. Better that the crappiness of Into Darkness stay confined to its own film, instead of spilling over into the next one.

I wouldn't have minded if Alice Eve's Carol Marcus had stuck around, though.