Kazon Space Question
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That's how I thought of them or maybe more like 'gypsies' although I think the original intent was 'biker gang'. I assumed Cullah's group was the only one that followed them and that was because Seska kept urging them on with tales of wonderful Federation Tech.
Baby was born, and the biological father got custody. Given what a little piece of shit Seska was, I'd drink to her death.
Let's be honest, Janeway pissed her panties every time the Kazon showed up, and from the start she was respectful of their starship's weapons. That's why she abandoned the caretaker array and ran so hard. For a supposed gang of bikers, they were able to maintain pace with Voyager for years, so high warp propulsion definitely wasn't one of their problems.
Voyager was chased not because of her engines, shields or weapons, it was for her replicator technology. It's likely the only thing about Voyager the Kazon didn't already have in some form.
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Let's be honest, Janeway pissed her panties every time the Kazon showed up, and from the start she was respectful of their starship's weapons. That's why she abandoned the caretaker array and ran so hard. For a supposed gang of bikers, they were able to maintain pace with Voyager for years, so high warp propulsion definitely wasn't one of their problems.
Voyager was chased not because of her engines, shields or weapons, it was for her replicator technology. It's likely the only thing about Voyager the Kazon didn't already have in some form.
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I wish there had been a scene where we saw Chakotay's reaction to finding out he wasn't the father and how that affected him. Actually, I wish he really had been the father and had to raise the child on Voyager. Maybe that would've been an interesting device for some character development.
Seems terrible the Voyager writers never produced an intelligent conclusion to the conflict with the Kazons, what a waste of 2 seasons.
Chakotay's baby was her ticket back on Voyager if "Plan A" failed.
It's just a pity that the baby wasn't Chak's and "Plan A" killed her.
It's just a pity that the baby wasn't Chak's and "Plan A" killed her.
so many loose threads involving kids.
Don't forget the real Naomi Wildman stored away in a sickbay drawer.
Also, Tom ####ed Rain in a very uncomfortable place.
[mallrats]The back of a Volkswagen.[/mallrats]
But Tom is totally a temporal deadbeat dad.
Also, Tom ####ed Rain in a very uncomfortable place.
[mallrats]The back of a Volkswagen.[/mallrats]
But Tom is totally a temporal deadbeat dad.
Earth/Sol system is on the edge.
Earth/Sol as far as I recall is 'supposed to be' between Alpha and Beta Quadrants if Trek maps are taken into account.
Our Sol's actual location is about 28 000 Ly's from the galactic core, and I think Trek in general maintained this.
Voyager was transported 75000 Ly's away (well, at least to the very edge of Milky Way it would seem) - however, recent scientific studies have estimated that our galaxy is actually 150 000 Ly's from one end to the other - or about 50% larger than before - to that end, it might be noteworthy that Trek adjusts for this discovery.
As for the Kazon... Voyager was not really in a position to use it's Warp a lot back then because the crew was in a state of searching for supplies, low energy reserves, etc.
I would imagine they steered clear of as many Kazon worlds and ships they could find, but when you have superior engines and infinite directions to pick... then again, I stand by the theory that the initial pull to the DQ damaged the Warp drive and the hull on a subatomic level which prevented Voyager from reaching and sustaining Warp 9.975 (which would actually bring them back to Earth in just over 6 days) - which could probably only be affected in a specialized drydock back in the Federation - and since Paris said that Warp 9.9 is 21 473 times C (and we almost never see the ship travelling at this speed, let alone 9.975), I would imagine that most of the time Voyager used Warp 6 to 8 exactly as we saw.
Plus it spent a lot of time at impulse during the first 2 seasons.... likely looking for supplies.
Our Sol's actual location is about 28 000 Ly's from the galactic core, and I think Trek in general maintained this.
Voyager was transported 75000 Ly's away (well, at least to the very edge of Milky Way it would seem) - however, recent scientific studies have estimated that our galaxy is actually 150 000 Ly's from one end to the other - or about 50% larger than before - to that end, it might be noteworthy that Trek adjusts for this discovery.
As for the Kazon... Voyager was not really in a position to use it's Warp a lot back then because the crew was in a state of searching for supplies, low energy reserves, etc.
I would imagine they steered clear of as many Kazon worlds and ships they could find, but when you have superior engines and infinite directions to pick... then again, I stand by the theory that the initial pull to the DQ damaged the Warp drive and the hull on a subatomic level which prevented Voyager from reaching and sustaining Warp 9.975 (which would actually bring them back to Earth in just over 6 days) - which could probably only be affected in a specialized drydock back in the Federation - and since Paris said that Warp 9.9 is 21 473 times C (and we almost never see the ship travelling at this speed, let alone 9.975), I would imagine that most of the time Voyager used Warp 6 to 8 exactly as we saw.
Plus it spent a lot of time at impulse during the first 2 seasons.... likely looking for supplies.
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That would only work until she saw the baby.
In the old manuals 1000 ly/year is about warp 8 on average, but then you have to account for stops and factor in impassable parts of space. Their average moving velocity was probably more around warp 9.
Tech manuals would put 9.9 more around 3000c.
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The hair could be a fashion choice, maybe more so than something that just happens.
Same with the Hirogen. After Voyager encountered them only a handful of times in season 4, it's clearly seen they make the jump a few thousand light years in the subsequent seasons. Yet, they reappear in season seven for "Flesh and Blood."
That's the problem I had with Voyager. It was hard to have a recurring alien foe for the crew without the audience bringing into question the fact that EVENTUALLY Voyager would travel beyond their space.
The Vaadwaur was a good way to address this, and even though it was hinted that they would return, they never did.
Thanks, Berman!
By the way, "assimilating themselves stupid" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. :
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That's the problem I had with Voyager. It was hard to have a recurring alien foe for the crew without the audience bringing into question the fact that EVENTUALLY Voyager would travel beyond their space.
The Vaadwaur was a good way to address this, and even though it was hinted that they would return, they never did.
Thanks, Berman!
By the way, "assimilating themselves stupid" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. :
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