Justin Lin is directing Star Trek XIII

[Shaka Zulu]

the guy who did the Fast & Furious films? urgh, how bad is the plot of this thing going to suck? at this rate I see it being two exploding ships racing through the galaxy for no reason at all, it's going to have an even worse plot than Into Darkness did I can see it coming.

thanks so much Paramount for destryoing Star Trek, I would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have another proper Trek series on Netflix or something than more reboot films that have plots so bad they make even The Phantom Menace's look good.

the guy who did the Fast & Furious films? urgh, how bad is the plot of this thing going to suck? at this rate I see it being two exploding ships racing through the galaxy for no reason at all, it's going to have an even worse plot than Into Darkness did I can see it coming.

thanks so much Paramount for destryoing Star Trek, I would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have another proper Trek series on Netflix or something than more reboot films that have plots so bad they make even The Phantom Menace's look good.

what a wonderful retort (NOT)

What a great retort (TRUE). Please develop a sense of reality about Star Trek, and not fantasy about it being 'progressive' or anything else-it's just an sci-fi space opera action adventure franchise. Let it be that.

The haters can always watch the fan shows.

 

[Amaris]

And children always love the thing that's being marketed to them at the time. When I was nine I loved freaking Power Rangers. Wait till they're older looking back and see how they feel.

Hey, Power Rangers was and still is awesome. You're never too old to enjoy the antics of Bulk and Skull.

I liked My Little Pony as a kid, and I still do, though I'm more fond of the newer generation.

 

[Cyke101]

I can't believe X3 made that much money. What a terrible film.

I dont think X3 is a terrible film, I just think people think it is a popular opinion and the right thing to say, its like how everyone says the star wars prequels are bad when to me I feel the prequels had more depth than the original trilogy.

Please speak for yourself. I remember watching X3 and the Phantom Menace on opening nights with great anticipation, only to walk out wanting a refund for wasting my time. So much so that I couldn't be bothered to watch Episode II in theaters (and I regret watching it at home). Episode III had better reviews, so I went out on a limb and watched that in the theater.

Depth? Anyone can be deep. Execution is key. For example, I Heart Huckabees could be considered deep and layered, but imo it was still a plodding mess from start to finish.

But those memories of X3 and Episode I and the sheer hostility I felt for ruining my night... yikes. My friends and I even went out for dinner and wine so that we could vent about how awful we felt the movie was as a whole.

And children always love the thing that's being marketed to them at the time. When I was nine I loved freaking Power Rangers. Wait till they're older looking back and see how they feel.

Hey, Power Rangers was and still is awesome. You're never too old to enjoy the antics of Bulk and Skull.

I moved on from Power Rangers to the source material Super Sentai because it tended to be more cohesive and grown up but still silly at times, all according to Western standards. But I couldn't have developed a love for Super Sentai if it hadn't been for Power Rangers. And yeah, as an adult, I kind of have a newfound appreciation for Bulk and Skull for providing a kind of balance and subplots to a group of 6 otherwise-boring heroes.

 

[HIjol]

Makes me sad whenever I read that someone thinks Star Trek is just a one-dimensional sci fi show, or that it does not have chops or depth or degree or what have you. Seeming to belittle it or make it some kind of small kids show or silly space opera.

There is not another entity or subject that owns more of our language and reference. Not another thing that comes up in culture as often and as ubiquitously as Star Trek. Some may argue The Bible or Shakespeare. I think not. Incarnation after incarnation, the franchise continues, regardless of who directed or produced or starred. Movies, books, cartoons, music, locations, languages. It is endless. We know more about the characters than some of our own family members. And care about them more. There are those of us who are approaching Admiralty years that have objects relating to Star Trek that easily total 5, 10, 20K or more in retail value.

Precious. Singular. Wondrous. THAT is Star Trek. The diametric opposite of plain or simple or one-dimensional.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Please tell me you're joking.

 

[Borgminister]

Shakes-WHO??

 

[Makarov]

Precious. Singular. Wondrous. THAT is Star Trek. The diametric opposite of plain or simple or one-dimensional.

Amen! Also I read that post in Patrick Stewart's voice in my head.

 

[Belz...]

Which makes zero sense.

In the real world it would make zero sense, but SW isn't the real world.

In SW there are such things as dark side Force powers, and ( in the old EU ) one of those powers can be used to revive the dying or even resurrect the recently dead.

We're talking about character motivations, here. I think those shuold always remain realistic no matter what fictional universe you're in.

 

[HIjol]

Precious. Singular. Wondrous. THAT is Star Trek. The diametric opposite of plain or simple or one-dimensional.

Amen! Also I read that post in Patrick Stewart's voice in my head.

And that, my Friend, is a most excellent way to hear those words.

 

[Mudd]

Please tell me you're joking.

My thought exactly. Talk about overreaching...!

 

[DWF]

Which makes zero sense.

In the real world it would make zero sense, but SW isn't the real world.

In SW there are such things as dark side Force powers, and ( in the old EU ) one of those powers can be used to revive the dying or even resurrect the recently dead.

We're talking about character motivations, here. I think those shuold always remain realistic no matter what fictional universe you're in.

Anakin's reaction was realistic, he lost his mother and whenever he closed his eyes he saw Padme dying. He went to Yoda who told him, to let go of all he fears to lose he goes to Palpatine who tells him there's a way of bringing back the dead. Given Anakin's mental condition because of his inability to sleep properly he made a poor decision.

 

[HIjol]

Please tell me you're joking.

My thought exactly. Talk about overreaching...!

Think what you want. That and so much more has been my Star Trek for more than 45 years, and always will be. It does not have to be that way for you, but there is no joking or overreaching about it. If anything, not enough. I will continue to enjoy both of your posts very much. Hope you find/have something similar in your lives you can be passionate and overreaching about!

 

[CorporalClegg]

Think what you want. That and so much more has been my Star Trek for more than 45 years, and always will be. It does not have to be that way for you, but there is no joking or overreaching about it. If anything, not enough. I will continue to enjoy both of your posts very much. Hope you find/have something similar in your lives you can be passionate and overreaching about!

Except it's not about what it is for you. You said:

There is not another entity or subject that owns more of our language and reference. Not another thing that comes up in culture as often and as ubiquitously as Star Trek. Some may argue The Bible or Shakespeare.

That's absurd.

I think not. Incarnation after incarnation, the franchise continues, regardless of who directed or produced or starred. Movies, books, cartoons, music, locations, languages. It is endless.

It's that way for several IPs, most more renowned than Star Trek.

We know more about the characters than some of our own family members. And care about them more.

That's not a very nice thing to say about your family.

 

[HIjol]

Think what you want. That and so much more has been my Star Trek for more than 45 years, and always will be. It does not have to be that way for you, but there is no joking or overreaching about it. If anything, not enough. I will continue to enjoy both of your posts very much. Hope you find/have something similar in your lives you can be passionate and overreaching about!

Except it's not about what it is for you. You said:

There is not another entity or subject that owns more of our language and reference. Not another thing that comes up in culture as often and as ubiquitously as Star Trek. Some may argue The Bible or Shakespeare.

That's absurd.

I think not. Incarnation after incarnation, the franchise continues, regardless of who directed or produced or starred. Movies, books, cartoons, music, locations, languages. It is endless.

It's that way for several IPs, most more renowned than Star Trek.

We know more about the characters than some of our own family members. And care about them more.

That's not a very nice thing to say about your family.

It is always very interesting to me how one person reads another's posts, or reacts to another persons opinions. I thank you for your dissection of my feelings on Star Trek, and say again that I will continue to enjoy and appreciate your posts and your perspective!

 

[BillJ]

It is always very interesting to me how one person reads another's posts, or reacts to another persons opinions. I thank you for your dissection of my feelings on Star Trek, and say again that I will continue to enjoy and appreciate your posts and your perspective!

What is important to me about Star Trek is personal, but what is important to me may not make for a viable product. Growing up with TOS, no other Star Trek will ever be "my" Star Trek. But I'm not going to hold that against newer iterations of the property.

 

[Belz...]

Anakin's reaction was realistic, he lost his mother and whenever he closed his eyes he saw Padme dying. He went to Yoda who told him, to let go of all he fears to lose he goes to Palpatine who tells him there's a way of bringing back the dead. Given Anakin's mental condition because of his inability to sleep properly he made a poor decision.

Yes, and it still makes no sense. The problem is that the script originally had Anakin distrust the Jedi and turn against them because they were staging a coup against the chancellor. You can clearly see that in the finished product, but along the way Lucas changed his mind and inserted the "I do it for Padme" angle, which is clunky and awkward.

Makes me sad whenever I read that someone thinks Star Trek is just a one-dimensional sci fi show, or that it does not have chops or depth or degree or what have you. Seeming to belittle it or make it some kind of small kids show or silly space opera.

There is not another entity or subject that owns more of our language and reference. Not another thing that comes up in culture as often and as ubiquitously as Star Trek. Some may argue The Bible or Shakespeare. I think not. Incarnation after incarnation, the franchise continues, regardless of who directed or produced or starred. Movies, books, cartoons, music, locations, languages. It is endless. We know more about the characters than some of our own family members. And care about them more. There are those of us who are approaching Admiralty years that have objects relating to Star Trek that easily total 5, 10, 20K or more in retail value.

Precious. Singular. Wondrous. THAT is Star Trek. The diametric opposite of plain or simple or one-dimensional.

Oh, please. Star Trek was the definition of popcorn fun. It wasn't deep or philosophical or sublime. It was fun. Well-written fun at times, and much of it has crept into pop culture, sure, but you are exaggerating.

 

[DWF]

Anakin's reaction was realistic, he lost his mother and whenever he closed his eyes he saw Padme dying. He went to Yoda who told him, to let go of all he fears to lose he goes to Palpatine who tells him there's a way of bringing back the dead. Given Anakin's mental condition because of his inability to sleep properly he made a poor decision.

Yes, and it still makes no sense. The problem is that the script originally had Anakin distrust the Jedi and turn against them because they were staging a coup against the chancellor. You can clearly see that in the finished product, but along the way Lucas changed his mind and inserted the "I do it for Padme" angle, which is clunky and awkward.

I haven't read the script but that makes no sense based on what's on screen. It was Anakin who told Mace that Paplatine was the Sith lord there were after. I;m sorry but it makes more sense as is, if anything Anakin should've killed Palpatine himself but Palpatine's control over Anakin was established pretty on in Ep. III.

 

[Mudd]

So Justin Lin is having Star Wars characters written into the next Trek move?

 

[DWF]

So Justin Lin is having Star Wars characters written into the next Trek move?

Well Paramount seems to want Guardians Of The Galaxy, so maybe Vin Diesel will play Darth Riddick the ruler of the Necromancers for Kirk to take down. Thereby combining Star Trek, Star Wars, Riddick and GOTG.

 

[Belz...]

I haven't read the script but that makes no sense based on what's on screen. It was Anakin who told Mace that Paplatine was the Sith lord there were after. I;m sorry but it makes more sense as is

Of course it does. They spend much of the movie setting it up by having Anakin distrust the counsil, being put on the counsil without being made master, etc.