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It's hard to go back thirty some years, I know, but the thing about Star Wars is that it didn't resemble any other movies that 20th (or most anyone) was making at the time it was green-lighted. No one knew what the potential audience for it was; no one understood what the visual impact of the finished film would be; no one had any clear idea how to market it.
also, while it was being made, weren't several of the actors, as well as Lucas afraid it was going to be a major bomb and a fiasco?

And instead, it was glorious.
 
:lol:

If the Internet had existed in its current form back in 1976...

Oh, yeah.

I mean, the studio didn't even take Lucas seriously. They allowed Star Wars to continue because it was a fun kid's movie that would probably make a little bit of money. They actually were counting on Damnation Alley to be the big hit that year. When it got delayed due to effects work, SW got its chance.

But, it wasn't taken completely seriously by everyone, especially a lot of the British crews.

Was the script he gave them any good? They might had been reasonable, there was lot of tweaking of the original ideas.
There was a lot of rewrites. You can take a quick look at the "Making of Star Wars" book on Amazon and see some brief notes from the preview. Suffice to say that the film was not only saved by the rewrites but also but a reediting of the final attack on the Death Star.

Both Sir Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing provided a lot of support for Lucas among the British crews, so he was helped by that.

It's hard to go back thirty some years, I know, but the thing about Star Wars is that it didn't resemble any other movies that 20th (or most anyone) was making at the time it was green-lighted. No one knew what the potential audience for it was; no one understood what the visual impact of the finished film would be; no one had any clear idea how to market it.
also, while it was being made, weren't several of the actors, as well as Lucas afraid it was going to be a major bomb and a fiasco?

Lucas was terrified of it, in point of fact. It was something that could have bankrupted him quite easily.
 
Right. As someone else pointed out, nobody expected TMP to be a musical in space, even though Robert Wise did West Side Story and the Sound of Music.

Well, it certainly did have musical sequences, albeit without actual singing.

Brace your ears for romance!

The first time I heard this was when I got the three disc soundtrack by La-La Land Records. I'm enjoying a lot of the Goldsmith work, and then that song comes up. I think I stared up at the wall for like five minutes after it finished.

I avoid it now like I avoid "It's a Long Road" because I'm not gonna let a banal pop song sully music I associate strongly with Goldsmith.
 
Well, it certainly did have musical sequences, albeit without actual singing.

Brace your ears for romance!

The first time I heard this was when I got the three disc soundtrack by La-La Land Records. I'm enjoying a lot of the Goldsmith work, and then that song comes up. I think I stared up at the wall for like five minutes after it finished.

I avoid it now like I avoid "It's a Long Road" because I'm not gonna let a banal pop song sully music I associate strongly with Goldsmith.

Yea, brother. ;)
 
As a ST fan, I will go and see the next movie. But, as time progresses, I am finding myself less and less enchanted with them.

Perhaps JJ leaving is a good thing? He obviously loves Star Wars.

When Spock yelled out in the last movie, I rolled my eyes. He and Kirk were not portrayed as close enough in the two movies to warrant such a reaction IMHO. What still irks me the most is this: If you go through the trouble of creating an alternate timeline to do you own thing, why go back to KNS in the very next movie?

Oh well. I remain hopeful. Heck, I own a copy of Insurrection. It is not like Paramount is not going to get my money.
 
Well, it certainly did have musical sequences, albeit without actual singing.

Brace your ears for romance!

The first time I heard this was when I got the three disc soundtrack by La-La Land Records. I'm enjoying a lot of the Goldsmith work, and then that song comes up. I think I stared up at the wall for like five minutes after it finished.

I avoid it now like I avoid "It's a Long Road" because I'm not gonna let a banal pop song sully music I associate strongly with Goldsmith.

I don't associate that song with Goldsmith. I *do*, however, think it fits perfectly with your avatar!
 
Oh well. I remain hopeful. Heck, I own a copy of Insurrection. It is not like Paramount is not going to get my money.

I own a copy of Insurrection, too. It's never been opened. :)

(The soundtrack album, on the other hand, gets a lot of play.)
 
I avoid "It's a Long Road"

That song grew on me quite a bit over the years. I think it captures the idea of Star Trek quite well, even if I would've prefered a more international accent from the singer.

It should have been a closing credits song, not an opening credits song.

I think that Voyager's theme is the best of the modern era Trek shows.

Guys/gals, I was talking about the song in FIRST BLOOD, not ENT's "Where My Heart Will Take Me". "It's A Long Road" is basically a pop song version of Goldsmith's main title in the Stallone film.

Goldsmith's beautiful theme:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOqTNlbZyFE[/yt]

Then there's the pop song "It's a Long Road":

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RawdCW0WCKU[/yt]
 
There was a lot of rewrites. You can take a quick look at the "Making of Star Wars" book on Amazon and see some brief notes from the preview. Suffice to say that the film was not only saved by the rewrites but also but a reediting of the final attack on the Death Star.

Heh, I have that book. Most of the ideas that Coppola, Spielberg and the rest Lucas' USC film school buddies told him were bad ended up in the prequels.
 
There was a lot of rewrites. You can take a quick look at the "Making of Star Wars" book on Amazon and see some brief notes from the preview. Suffice to say that the film was not only saved by the rewrites but also but a reediting of the final attack on the Death Star.

Heh, I have that book. Most of the ideas that Coppola, Spielberg and the rest Lucas' USC film school buddies told him were bad ended up in the prequels.

It's actually pretty interesting to watch the evolution.

Spielberg pretty much got to the point where he recognized that he had to let Lucas do his thing, regardless of the consequences.
 
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