Justin Lin is directing Star Trek XIII

[SalvorHardin]

The really important question is this.
Is Justin Lin a long time true Star Trek fan or is he a clueless infidel, bent on Trek's distraction like Abrams was?

 

[xavier]

once again. Trek has finished second to star wars. star wars gets the big guns critically acclaimed director like JJ abrams

Umm, Trek had Abrams first...twice. Star Wars is getting our sloppy thirds.

and trek gets a nobody.

Director of one of Hollywood's most succesful franchises. And his last 3 F&F movies made about 1.7 billion worldwide.

For me box office is irrelevant. box office has never shown quality. a film can earn loads of money and still be terrible. I am scared so much that I am shaking in my legs I thought STID was really a shallow film and now trek 3 may be even more shallow.judging from the director. having sex on top of a car, women there just to be sexy (and you think carol's strip scene was bad), silly action scenes. should I go on?

this is bad to me. I have a bad feeling and most of the time I am right.

also trek in not like F&F , if trek does not have a good word of mouth. it will collapse at the box office.

 

[SalvorHardin]

For me box office is irrelevant. box office has never shown quality.

We were not talking quality of film. We were talking about your statement that Justin Lin is a nobody.
Being on the drivers seat of one of the most financially sucessful franchises shows that he is very much somebody. Despite of what one may think of the quality of the F&F movies.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

The Fast & the Furious guy?

Big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Granted, Chris Pine looks a bit like Paul Walker, but still...

Can't we have Rian Johnson, and Lin is directing Episode VIII and Episode IX instead? Swap them please.

I enjoyed Looper a great deal, just as I have enjoyed the latter Lin-directed Fast & Furious movies (which shouldn't be judged based on the first few, because they're quite different --except for his Tokyo Drift, which is grouped more with the first films in terms of theme, even though it's the sixth film chronologically-- don't ask), but I'm curious what sets Rian Johnson so far above Lin in your eyes?

Looper might as well be a future Fast & Furious with time travel and psionics, as the slick, outlaw tone and the chase movie aspects are very similar. Both Lin and Johnson have a prior critically acclaimed smaller film (Better Luck Tomorrow and Brick, respectively) and have directed some critically acclaimed TV episodes (Community and Breaking Bad). I find they're pretty evenly matched in terms of resume, with Johnson beating Lin in terms of critical acclaim and Lin blowing Johnson out of the water in terms of box office.

I think they're both very talented and would be fine directors for Trek III, I just don't see why you had such a visceral reaction against Lin but proposed someone who isn't all that different, IMO.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

Justin Lin has proved that he can save a franchise. Can his winning streak continue? Possibly.

I am thinking that Justin Lin has name recognition overseas. If so, this could be a selling point for Star Trek. Something along the lines of, from the director who helmed the F&F franchise will come the next Star Trek movie.

The Star Trek of the 21st century will never be the Star Trek of the 20th century. The market has shifted from domestic to international, and that market has different expectations. Justin Lin, again, has proved that he is attuned to that market.

Remember, what Paramount wants is a film that succeeds brilliantly in the international market, while doing better than the earlier films in the domestic market.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Justin Lin has proved that he can save a franchise.

Yup. He's also directed episodes of Community, so he has some geek cred.

Like I said in another thread: That's actually a good sign IMO - he's done well with handling the ensemble cast in the F&F movies, which bodes well for the Enterprise crew.

 

[C_Miller]

once again. Trek has finished second to star wars. star wars gets the big guns critically acclaimed director like JJ abrams

Umm, Trek had Abrams first...twice. Star Wars is getting our sloppy thirds.

and trek gets a nobody.

Director of one of Hollywood's most succesful franchises. And his last 3 F&F movies made about 1.7 billion worldwide.

For me box office is irrelevant. box office has never shown quality. a film can earn loads of money and still be terrible. I am scared so much that I am shaking in my legs I thought STID was really a shallow film and now trek 3 may be even more shallow.judging from the director. having sex on top of a car, women there just to be sexy (and you think carol's strip scene was bad), silly action scenes. should I go on?

this is bad to me. I have a bad feeling and most of the time I am right.

also trek in not like F&F , if trek does not have a good word of mouth. it will collapse at the box office.

Like others have said, Justin Lin is really the one who turned the franchise away from having sex on cars, women just there to be sexy, and silly action scenes. They've been very legitimate heist/thriller movies since Fast Five. Sure they're still action movies, but let's be honest, that's what Trek XIII would have been regardless of who was directing.

 

[DarthPipes]

I can't say I'm thrilled with the hire. The Fast and Furious movies have never done anything for me and Lin's movie resume isn't one that inspires confidence as far as quality projects are concerned. I give him credit for helping to turn the series into a juggernaut though and I've heard some very good things about Scorpion, which he is the executive producer of. Maybe he would be better off as executive producer of the next Trek series.

Hopefully he'll do a good job.

 

[Mudd]

Lin's a great choice; of the five directors being discussed last week he was the one I was pulling for. I like the Fast & Furious movies.

 

[Makarov]

Rian Johnson deserves some credit - he created his own unique sci fi world with Looper, that's different than taking something that already exists and making it slightly better. Definitely would have been excited to see what he would do with Trek.

 

[RandyS]

I...have no strong feelings one way or the other.

Me either, although, even though I wasn't really expecting him to, I was hoping for Jonathan Frakes. At least I know who he is. I've never heard of this Lin person. Of course, I had never heard of any of the reboot cast before 2009, and still can't keep most of them straight anyway.

 

[Relayer1]

Umm, Trek had Abrams first...twice. Star Wars is getting our sloppy thirds.



Director of one of Hollywood's most succesful franchises. And his last 3 F&F movies made about 1.7 billion worldwide.

For me box office is irrelevant. box office has never shown quality. a film can earn loads of money and still be terrible. I am scared so much that I am shaking in my legs I thought STID was really a shallow film and now trek 3 may be even more shallow.judging from the director. having sex on top of a car, women there just to be sexy (and you think carol's strip scene was bad), silly action scenes. should I go on?

this is bad to me. I have a bad feeling and most of the time I am right.

also trek in not like F&F , if trek does not have a good word of mouth. it will collapse at the box office.

Like others have said, Justin Lin is really the one who turned the franchise away from having sex on cars, women just there to be sexy, and silly action scenes. They've been very legitimate heist/thriller movies since Fast Five. Sure they're still action movies, but let's be honest, that's what Trek XIII would have been regardless of who was directing.

It looks like more of the same to me. I love the FnF movies, but they are as far from Trek as JJ's.

I'll go to see it, but it probably won't be noticeably different in tone or content.

 

[Admiral Bear]

Unsurprised. Feeling very very deflated right now.

Paramount was always going to do its worst, and now it seems to have done it.

 

[NuFan]

This does not mean that the opinions of the true fans do not matter.

 

[Mudd]

Anyone's opinion matters to them; that's what an opinion is.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Well, Lin is certainly a talented director. That is a good thing. But I am nervous. Baird was a well known director as well, with some strong titles to his credit, but he was ill suited to direct Nemesis. He did not understand what Trek is and tried to make a cool space action movie that was terribly edited, full of plot holes, and lacked the trek spirit. Does Lin understand Trek or he is just going to try to make another cool space action movie?

I want Star Trek to be an intelligent, fun, inspiring movie, true to the Trek spirit, not Fast & Furious IN SPAAAACEEE!!

 

[Dac]

I just want a Star Trek Action movie that isn't dumb. I don't mind simple if it makes sense. So Lin is fine by me, as long as the story is good.

 

[Malaika]

I don't know how I feel about this but I'm keeping a open mind.
The fact that he doesn't seem to be experienced with the genre could be both positive and negative.

The really important question is this.
Is Justin Lin a long time true Star Trek fan or is he a clueless infidel, bent on Trek's distraction like Abrams was?

Nicholas Meyer wasn't a star trek fan either when he did The Wrath of Khan. Just saying.
to be honest, I think that if the first reboot movie was so successful among a wider audience than just a portion of star trek fans it was precisely because the director wasn't a huge star trek fan. When JJ said that he didn't do the movies for the star trek fans (only) I got what he meant (and that it's what he HAD to do) and I never found it offensive or against the star trek fans.

anyway JJ doesn't hate star trek. People take his interviews out of context. He once explained that he wasn't a fan as a kid - but he's NOW - because when he was a little guy - and guess why - he didn't get star trek, from the pov of a kid.

 

[The Wormhole]

Well, Lin is certainly a talented director. That is a good thing. But I am nervous. Baird was a well known director as well, with some strong titles to his credit, but he was ill suited to direct Nemesis. He did not understand what Trek is and tried to make a cool space action movie that was terribly edited, full of plot holes, and lacked the trek spirit.

The plot holes wouldn't have been Baird's fault, as he had no involvement in the script or story development. Sure, Baird was ignorant of Trek to the point he actually argued with LeVar Burton and tried to convince him that Geordi was an alien, but there are certain things he can't be blamed for.

I want Star Trek to be an intelligent, fun, inspiring movie, true to the Trek spirit, not Fast & Furious IN SPAAAACEEE!!

The other two Abrams movies aren't intelligent or inspiring, so why should this one be either? I want Trek XIII to be either one of two movies:

-An actual honest Trek movie.
-An action movie that doesn't pretend to be anything else.

I'm fine with the fact that it's option 2. The problem with the Abrams movies isn't that they're mindless action movies, it's that they're mindless action movies where the writers believed they were doing intellectual think pieces. The end result comes off as pretentious. Doing an action movie for its own sake will at least give the movie an honest feeling to it.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Not a very interesting choice, but if they want a director who can follow what Abrams did, I guess this is the guy for them.