Just watched Star Trek: The Motion Picture
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Its been theorized that the "black hole" (or worm hole) that Voyager VI fell into may have sent it back in time as well as across the galaxy, which would account for the time it would take to travel the universe. It is stated quite clearly that V'Ger has--at the very least--explored whole galaxies, which Spock sees in the imaging chamber. And in its evolution isn't it possible that V'Ger-Decker became a being like Q, et al?
And I doubt very much the galactic barrier would have been that much of a problem for V'Ger considering the power it had at its disposal.
I really don't see how it is a "cop out" at all. Its part of the over-all theme of evolution and finding meaning in one's life. V'Ger had to be able to find its own meaning in life. Decker gave it this ability and together they went off to other "planes of existence" to find that meaning and explore.
You dismissed it as Deus ex machina, if that's what you mean.
Makes you want to put a bullet in your head, doesn't it?
Theorized by who? There's no indication of that in the movie. If that's the case, V'Ger would have to have been traveling the cosmos for billions of years. We don't even know if the universe has an end to be reached, so this stretches the imagination well beyond the breaking point.
Furthermore, space is a dangerous place. We know quite well that V'Ger isn't the most powerful being. Traveling that far for so long alone would not bode well for anyone who isn't a Q.
I'm just saying. That claim is a horse pill far too large to swallow.
As for finding meaning, someone needs to write a novel dealing with this new entity V'Ger and Decker has become. Where did it go and what is it's purpose, now? Stingy bastard wouldn't even download the information it learned during its journey, like it was programmed to do. What's the point of gathering information, if you can't share it?
An Unsatisfying deus ex machina. See post above.
Not at all.
He said The Motion Picture, not The Voyage Home.
Quite a lot, starting with the fact it's not a Star Trek movie.^What's wrong with the Voyage Home?
But this is for TMP
Hey, I like TMP it's just that it's so.... painful. Drawn out, colorless, and just..., well, masturbatory.
I mean a several minutes long scene showcasing a model. GOD! JUST BOARD THE SHIP ALREADY AND GET ON WITH THE MOVIE!!!!
Oh, yeah.
Eight minutes of extreme masturbatory model porn though is a bit extreme.
I can stare at Beauty for far longer. Often without breathing.
Don't you mean the Gamma Quadrant
Remember Decker's line that I only partially quoted: "Negative control from inertial lag will continue 22.5 seconds before forward velocity slows to sublight speed." It comes right after Kirk tells Sulu to reverse and go to impulse power and Sulu indicates no response. All indicating had the asteroid not been caught up with them in the wormhole the Enterprise would have slowed down on it's own to sublight speed and they would have control again.
The presentation of the Enterprise and technology and our reaction to it is a large part of what Sci-Fi is and why I love this movie and why the scene works. And as Wise said he did it was so we get a proper perspective of how large the Enterprise is and then how small it is compared to V'ger.
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