Spoilers Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom - Review and Discussion
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Yeah I'm just trying to make sense of the basic plot of the Fallen Kingdom is they need to rescue the dinosaurs before the volcano goes off. But I don't get it if there are already more dinosaurs on another island, or the fact they seem easy enough to make. What about the stuff they took off the island the last movie? Just make more dinosaurs!
The trailer already spoiled that part of the movie. But Congress holds a meeting about saving them where Ian testifies. Why bother when you can just breed more?
And it's not really a plot whole to debate the point of the movie.
From what I have seen I rather have had the movie be another lame excuse to go to the island, this time before it is destroyed than the weird half volcano half Lockwood thing that we seem to be getting.It just seems like it's not a natural continuation from the last one.
Why bother saving a babie from a hot car, if you just can breed more 8[
If you really need me to explain the difference than you have issues.
One is a human and is unique when the 'dinosaurs' were bred in a lab many times.
That lab is destroyed and the main scientist (Wu) isn't there anymore (officially) to produce more. The Dinosaurs on the Island are alive. They are there, here and now and they are in danger. That's the whole point.
Just think of a Dog in a hot car if that makes it any easier for you. You don't even have to picture a puppy. An old dog. An ugly dog. Shelters are full of them. Why safe this one?
Just think of a Dog in a hot car if that makes it any easier for you. You don't even have to picture a puppy. An old dog. An ugly dog. Shelters are full of them. Why safe this one?
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The ending was kinda odd..
I just don't buy the "the dinosaurs are loose now and we're just gonna have to get use to living with them! Maybe we'll be the ones to go extinct now!" thing.
First of all, is it still the case that all the dinosaurs are female? I know in JP1 some were breeding somehow but I can't see that being the case for all. But mainly there weren't even that many of them anyway. And don't they all have trackers? Even if not it's really not gonna be hard to track down a huge frickin T-Rex or a Triceratops or whatever. Yeah they're big but a Swat team or whoever could easily take them down. Plus doesn't everyone in America have guns, so all the local red neck hunters would be well up for capturing/killing one, and you could make a fortune on the black market.
Also I don't think the general public are gonna be happy with T-Rex's and Raptors just strolling about the place. So I just don't think the ending was that much of a big deal, they'd all be dealt with very quickly.
First of all, is it still the case that all the dinosaurs are female? I know in JP1 some were breeding somehow but I can't see that being the case for all. But mainly there weren't even that many of them anyway. And don't they all have trackers? Even if not it's really not gonna be hard to track down a huge frickin T-Rex or a Triceratops or whatever. Yeah they're big but a Swat team or whoever could easily take them down. Plus doesn't everyone in America have guns, so all the local red neck hunters would be well up for capturing/killing one, and you could make a fortune on the black market.
Also I don't think the general public are gonna be happy with T-Rex's and Raptors just strolling about the place. So I just don't think the ending was that much of a big deal, they'd all be dealt with very quickly.
It was never explained how, if the island is abandoned, they shave all the dinosaurs? Maybe nobody remembered to tell the guy who did it they went out of business and he kept doing it.
I thought it was good. I enjoyed it more than Jurassic World. There were times where I thought it was rehashing The Lost World, but I barely recall everything that happened there . Did The Last World also have a bedroom scene? If yes, we got all the greatest hits here.¹ And even if something wasn't in TLW, you still predicted it for other reasons – you totally, totally saw that ending coming. But I never mind when to hear the good stuff in a new version – a better version I might add, because I seem to recall I liked TLW a lot less than this.
The story was more coherent and complete. When you expected it to end and give in to the obligatory mindless human devouring straight out of a Bloodbath song, the story actually kept going. It's the first one I actually enjoyed JP for the story, or – at any point – actually rooted for the dinosaurs outside of a Weird Al song.
(Well, maybe not story, but at least human stuff different than running and dying.)
And they finally resolved my utter disappointment with Jurassic World that
¹ That's not a spoiler. If anything, anticipating it makes it more intense.
I thought it was good. I enjoyed it more than Jurassic World. There were times where I thought it was rehashing The Lost World, but I barely recall everything that happened there . Did The Last World also have a bedroom scene? If yes, we got all the greatest hits here.¹ And even if something wasn't in TLW, you still predicted it for other reasons – you totally, totally saw that ending coming. But I never mind when to hear the good stuff in a new version – a better version I might add, because I seem to recall I liked TLW a lot less than this.
The story was more coherent and complete. When you expected it to end and give in to the obligatory mindless human devouring straight out of a Bloodbath song, the story actually kept going. It's the first one I actually enjoyed JP for the story, or – at any point – actually rooted for the dinosaurs outside of a Weird Al song.
(Well, maybe not story, but at least human stuff different than running and dying.)
And they finally resolved my utter disappointment with Jurassic World that
the title was a bait and switch. First it was World, then it turned out it was just another Park. I hope they get the dinosaurs to procreate in large numbers for the next one, and we get a proper Jurassic World. It's not like there's lack of CGI food for the creatures.
One thing that kind of annoys me is that they did follow through with the tagline and destroyed the park for good, so no more callbacks to the first film. The cars from the park have been etched in my brain since more than a decade before seeing Jurassic Park – thinking for a time there was a literal park where I could ride them to see the dinosaurs. So knowing we will never see them makes me sad.
One thing that kind of annoys me is that they did follow through with the tagline and destroyed the park for good, so no more callbacks to the first film. The cars from the park have been etched in my brain since more than a decade before seeing Jurassic Park – thinking for a time there was a literal park where I could ride them to see the dinosaurs. So knowing we will never see them makes me sad.
¹ That's not a spoiler. If anything, anticipating it makes it more intense.
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Even if we ignore the basic issue of there not being enough dinosaurs to make strong healty populations - we are speaking about ones and twos, not tens or hundreds or thousands, most wild animals in America are not given the chance to roam free, especially in the West. We can see how the debate over animals roaming free is shaping up in the news. There is a debate over whether bison should be allowed to roam freely outside Yellowstone. Ranchers are freaking out about bison contaminating their cattle with disease and are calling upon the government to give them permission to kill the animals. Protectors of the bison, like Yellowstone's superintendant, are given a multiple choice letter, to either accept a deskbound job in Washington or resign. (He resigned.) There are 4000 bison; ranchers want the population reduced to 3000 bison, with the suggestion that 1000 bison should be killed. Lest we forget, this is a country which killed nearly 80 million bison in thirty years to force a group of humans, who depended on the animals, into reservations. The dinosaurs - it doesn't matter if they eat plants or eat meat or both - are screwed. The survivors of this project will be dead from disease, or starvation, or from being killed by ranchers and others protecting property and lives and or hunted down by trophy hunters looking to kill the biggest or most dangerous animal on the planet.
I enjoyed the movie. It is a popcorn movie, but it managed to hit the right notes for me: lots of animatronics and some Gothic horror near the end. That said, I was also skeptical about the ending. How those dinosaurs won't hunted by drones and attack helicopters is beyond me.
I’d like to chime in also and say that Jurassic World will not end up like a “Planet of the Apes” scenario.
Half of humanity dying off and dinosaurs reclaiming the planet is not possible
Half of humanity dying off and dinosaurs reclaiming the planet is not possible
Well obviously. America is the only country screwed since they can’t swim.
Well obviously. America is the only country screwed since they can’t swim.
But people can now breed more anytime they want. They have the tech, the tech can be stolen.
I have seen a YouTube review video of this film. God, this film is stupid. At so many points in the film, if not for the stupidity of the characters, the film would have ended.
I was thinking as the retrieval operation at the beginning of the movie, why are they not using drones? Drones can be used now for picking up objects and the people who operate the drones are at a safe distance. And, how can there be a skeleton of the big baddie from the last movie. Wouldn't the swimming lizard have eaten the creature, instead of letting it go to waste?
I was thinking as the retrieval operation at the beginning of the movie, why are they not using drones? Drones can be used now for picking up objects and the people who operate the drones are at a safe distance. And, how can there be a skeleton of the big baddie from the last movie. Wouldn't the swimming lizard have eaten the creature, instead of letting it go to waste?
This is really what I wanted to see in the first place instead of the lame return to the park (but now with trained raptors!) we were given.
Leave enough time between movies and the whole Jurassic World moniker could have truly been done justice from the very beginning, through a simple combination of:
Spreading technology, especially in the hands of arrogant dictators, fanatic groups and scientists more concerned with advancement than safety. Heck, imagine a framework where the technology is no longer legally limited, and it would spread to every local amusement park/roadside zoo in existence.
Smuggling - Rich morons would pay a fortune for their own private dinosaur zoos, and someone will oblige them even if it means sneaking onto a dangerous island to steal eggs.
Invasive Species - Compys were escaping to the mainland even before the original park shut down, according to the book. If they have a reasonably high birth rate, which TLW certainly implied, they have the makings of one of the worst natural disasters in human history.
I actually love Jurassic World, it's a lot of fun. I thought everything you just said would be in the sequel, but instead we get another lame excuse to go to the island and never changes.