Joker Origin Story Announced

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  1. Captaindemotion

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    I was convinced he'd win all the other awards then lose the big one (like Keaton or Rourke) so I'm happy to have been wrong. Happy also to see a win for the composer, the score was excellent.
     
  2. crookeddy

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    I am only disappointed that it had to happen at the expense of John Williams' last Star Wars score. Would've been nice to see him win with his first and last.
     
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    A good question... for another thread.
     
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  4. TREK_GOD_1

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    Phoenix won. Two Oscars for the Joker character. That has to be on some sort of list.

    In any case, I am satisfied he won. He had the best performance of the year (many years, to be honest), and as far as comic-based movies go, his performance left all others from 2019 in the dust.

    Easily one of the top three or four greatest performances of any comic-based film in history.

    If he did not win for TESB (arguably his best SW score), there was no way any PT score would get it.
     
  5. Serveaux

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    You're wrong.
     
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  6. BillJ

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    Wait a minute? Phoenix won, and the planet is still here and rotating...

    What a rip off.
     
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  7. Anwar

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    A movie where he wrestled a CGI Bear won him his Oscar? No, it was just his consolation prize from the Academy for not getting it sooner.

    Same with Winslet winning for The Reader.

    Same with Phoenix and Joker.

    Well, his Joker was admittedly just INO. So no, we don't have a Godfather scenario here.
     
  8. Serveaux

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    Well, this will encourage the studios to invest in more inventive versions of these superhero sagas that we seem to be stuck with for a few cycles yet...

    BTW, where were all the above-the-line Oscars for whatever it was Marvel did this year? :cool:
     
  9. Anwar

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    Yeah, we'll get Nolan making his version of Guardians where they're just a delusional Biker Gang on Earth who think they're aliens...

    Ever since Scorsese and Coppola said their comments, the Academy wouldn't dare nominate them for anything without offending their own. Endgame getting a VFX Nom was all they'd allow.
     
  10. BillJ

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    This is knee-jerk non-sense. There is no indication that Marvel is changing course based on the success of Joker.
     
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    Couldn't hurt them, though. At some point people like Feige want peer recognition.

    And, of course, the message to ambitious and well-known actors of the kind that Marvel often courts is that the "other team" is where actors get awarded for their work. Ledger, Phoenix...
     
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    Outside of a couple of actors, I'm not sure I could tell you anyone in Marvel movies. I usually go in and bed down for a two hour nap. :guffaw:
     
  13. Anwar

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    They already got that for making CBM history with Black Panther's Best Pic Nom.

    The message is that they get it if they just use the characters' name but otherwise not the character.

    IE, imagine if someone made a movie called "Scarlett" and it claims to be about Scarlett O'Hara but it's really about some poor cockney street girl.
     
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    No one likes finishing second, no matter how much they smile and nod.
     
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    ...and that's not going to happen with giant purple video game characters, iron guys blasting things, more explosions and fat, drunk Thor.

    Yes, but dont remind a certain person of that. His butt is a-hurtin' big time after Joker achieved what no 2019 MCU release (especially the "awweeesssome an' epic Endgame!!!!") could not, and never had even a whisper of a chance of doing.
     
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  16. crookeddy

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    Extremists on both sides of an issue are irritating. Did it hurt you severely when Black Panther was nominated?
     
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  17. crookeddy

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    BTW what an AWFUL, AWFUL speech by Phoenix at the Oscars. Congrats on your Oscar buddy, please never speak again.
     
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  18. crookeddy

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    It will happen for SURE. He probably won't win anything in the short term, but he'll be getting a lifetime achievement award in 10-15 years, the same way Albert Broccoli did.
     
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    Marvel has no incentive to change course.
     
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  20. BillJ

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    Honestly, I don't usually care for awards or awards shows. The only thing that irritated me about the whole sequence of events was the folks who claimed it would somehow invalidate the award if Phoenix won. Or, the one guy, who claimed that the only way a "superhero-in-name only" movie could win an Oscar was because a superhero movie that he liked had been nominated first.

    I mean, congrats to Phoenix. But his winning an Oscar doesn't change my world, my viewing habits or what I think of the MCU.
     
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