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Joanna by D.C. Fontana

EnriqueH

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I've always heard/read that D.C. Fontana had written a story about McCoy's daughter.

Has it ever been published in any form? I know there's no novel.

I was just thinking how weird that such a talked-about story has never made it to print (correct me if I'm wrong).
 
Apparently Fontana is working on a new draft of this story to be made as a Star Trek Phase 2 webisode eventually.
 
Is this the story that eventually became The Way to Eden?

Irina was originally Joanna, and instead of Chekov, she became involved with Kirk?
 
I'm actually glad this never happened. It's not something I had any interest in seeing. The notion of Kirk romancing McCoy's daughter is just too icky for my tastes. I much prefer how it played out in "The Way To Eden."
 
Apparently Fontana is working on a new draft of this story to be made as a Star Trek Phase 2 webisode eventually.

Yeah, I hope that can happen.

I think Dorothy Fontana is not going too hew to closely to her original "Joanna" script. The notion that Joanna is/was a follower of Dr. Sevrin and his teachings/philosophies has sort of already been done. I think her story will not resemble her old script too much.

This is a reminder that Kirk hitting on a 21-year-old Joanna is not much weirder than Kirk hitting on 19-year-old Lenore Karidian--although Joanna being McCoy's daughter does add a wrinkle.
 
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Apparently Fontana is working on a new draft of this story to be made as a Star Trek Phase 2 webisode eventually.

Yeah, I hope that can happen.

I think Dorothy Fontana is not going to hew to closely to her original "Joanna" script. The notion that Joanna is/was a follower of Dr. Sevrin and his teachings/philosophies has sort of already been done. I think her story will not resemble her old script too much.

This is a reminder that Kirk hitting on a 21-year-old Joanna is not much weirder than Kirk hitting on 19-year-old Lenore Karidian--although Joanna being McCoy's daughter does add a wrinkle.

And significantly less weird than whatever the heck was happening in Miri! Progress?
 
Is this the story that eventually became The Way to Eden?

Irina was originally Joanna, and instead of Chekov, she became involved with Kirk?

More or less correct. Here's a fun MA link on the subject:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Undeveloped_Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_episodes

And here's the story outline to Joanna, specifically, if you want to read it:
http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/joanna.htm

Wow, this is cool. Thanks for the link.

But I don't see where Kirk is hitting on Joanna. Maybe I missed it
 
Is this the story that eventually became The Way to Eden?

Irina was originally Joanna, and instead of Chekov, she became involved with Kirk?

More or less correct. Here's a fun MA link on the subject:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Undeveloped_Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_episodes

And here's the story outline to Joanna, specifically, if you want to read it:
http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/joanna.htm

Wow, this is cool. Thanks for the link.

But I don't see where Kirk is hitting on Joanna. Maybe I missed it

Given that the source for that plot element is a random comment on a blog you can probably dismiss it as apocryphal, unless someone else has better evidence.
 
More or less correct. Here's a fun MA link on the subject:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Undeveloped_Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_episodes

And here's the story outline to Joanna, specifically, if you want to read it:
http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/joanna.htm

Wow, this is cool. Thanks for the link.

But I don't see where Kirk is hitting on Joanna. Maybe I missed it

Given that the source for that plot element is a random comment on a blog you can probably dismiss it as apocryphal, unless someone else has better evidence.

For what it's worth, there's this content from the book The Making of Star Trek. Roddenberry writes (on page 241):

"IN A FUTURE STORY, WE WILL BRING MCCOY'S DAUGHTER JOANNA ABOARD. SHE WILL BE A LOVELY GIRL, AND CAPTAIN KIRK, OF COURSE, IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH HER. DR. MCCOY IS SUDDENLY GOING TO DISCOVER HE IS A FATHER VIEWING KIRK FROM A FATHER'S PERSPECTIVE. AN INTERESTING AND SOMETIMES ANGRY NEW MCCOY-KIRK RELATIONSHIP WILL BE SEEN."

(The caps are from the book, not mine.)
 
I'm actually glad this never happened. It's not something I had any interest in seeing. The notion of Kirk romancing McCoy's daughter is just too icky for my tastes. I much prefer how it played out in "The Way To Eden."


Despite some interesting things that might have resulted in their relationship (the Jim and Bones one), I'm happy that never happened.

On the hand, Bones being Jim's father-in-law could have been an interesting comedy spin off... :lol:
 
Wow, this is cool. Thanks for the link.

But I don't see where Kirk is hitting on Joanna. Maybe I missed it

Given that the source for that plot element is a random comment on a blog you can probably dismiss it as apocryphal, unless someone else has better evidence.

For what it's worth, there's this content from the book The Making of Star Trek. Roddenberry writes (on page 241):

"IN A FUTURE STORY, WE WILL BRING MCCOY'S DAUGHTER JOANNA ABOARD. SHE WILL BE A LOVELY GIRL, AND CAPTAIN KIRK, OF COURSE, IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH HER. DR. MCCOY IS SUDDENLY GOING TO DISCOVER HE IS A FATHER VIEWING KIRK FROM A FATHER'S PERSPECTIVE. AN INTERESTING AND SOMETIMES ANGRY NEW MCCOY-KIRK RELATIONSHIP WILL BE SEEN."

(The caps are from the book, not mine.)

Where in the universe is it OK to hit on your best friends 21 year old daughter? Unless you're a sleezebag. Or unless you didn't know she was your best friend's daughter. Isn't there some sort of men's code of honour or something?
 
Where in the universe is it OK to hit on your best friends 21 year old daughter? Unless you're a sleezebag. Or unless you didn't know she was your best friend's daughter. Isn't there some sort of men's code of honour or something?

"All's fair in love and war?"
 
Wow, this is cool. Thanks for the link.

But I don't see where Kirk is hitting on Joanna. Maybe I missed it

Given that the source for that plot element is a random comment on a blog you can probably dismiss it as apocryphal, unless someone else has better evidence.

For what it's worth, there's this content from the book The Making of Star Trek. Roddenberry writes (on page 241):

"IN A FUTURE STORY, WE WILL BRING MCCOY'S DAUGHTER JOANNA ABOARD. SHE WILL BE A LOVELY GIRL, AND CAPTAIN KIRK, OF COURSE, IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH HER. DR. MCCOY IS SUDDENLY GOING TO DISCOVER HE IS A FATHER VIEWING KIRK FROM A FATHER'S PERSPECTIVE. AN INTERESTING AND SOMETIMES ANGRY NEW MCCOY-KIRK RELATIONSHIP WILL BE SEEN."

(The caps are from the book, not mine.)

Awesome. Thank you for that! Sometimes I wish MA citations were better moderated, but it is a wiki, so c'est la vie.
 
Where in the universe is it OK to hit on your best friends 21 year old daughter? Unless you're a sleezebag. Or unless you didn't know she was your best friend's daughter. Isn't there some sort of men's code of honour or something?

As was posted above, I'm glad the series never went there.

Code of honor... in skirt-chasing GR's mind? :drool:
 
Where in the universe is it OK to hit on your best friends 21 year old daughter? Unless you're a sleezebag. Or unless you didn't know she was your best friend's daughter. Isn't there some sort of men's code of honour or something?

"All's fair in love and war?"

No, that's just creepy. When I was a young lad in college, my best mate had a sister (of consenting age ) who was smoking hot. But it was just too weird to hit on her. The same x2 for your buddies daughter. Wrong on too many levels.
 
I'll be withholding judgment until I read the script/see the episode, because it's always nice to have some facts regarding what's actually portrayed, on which to base an opinion.
 
Where in the universe is it OK to hit on your best friends 21 year old daughter?
What wrong there?

Kirk was about 13 years older than the girl and McCoy some 10 years beyond Kirk. So just from an age point of view everything's fine. McCoy has a younger friend.

Kirk and Joanna developing a romance isn't quite the same as Kirk "hitting on her." It's not like he was going to be slipping a roffie into her chocolate milk.

Unless you're going to have McCoy be one of those fathers who can't accept that their offspring in now an adult.

:)
 
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