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JMS' Crusade as a standalone Sci-Fi series

DigificWriter

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Hi all. I really want to get back into doing some script-based writing, and while I was trying to come up with ideas, my mind wandered to JMS' Babylon 5 spinoff series Crusade, and the possibility of 're-imagining' it as an original standalone sci-fi series with absolutely no ties to JMS' B5 universe. However, before I started work on the project, I wanted to get some opinions on whether or not a standalone Crusade series would actually work.
 
Not sure I understand what you mean. An SF series based on a quest for a cure for a plague but *not* in the B5 universe? Or a series based on the effects of alien technology? Presumably you'd use different characters, too so I don't get the 're-imagined' part.

The problem with any kind of quest series is that you can only string it along for so long before you kinda have to find the object of the quest. The technology angle might be more open-ended, depending on your approach.

Jan
 
Basically, the idea would be to take the basic premise from Crusade, excise anything that connected said premise to B5 and its universe (characters, some themes and terminology, etc.), and release the series as its own entity.

I'm just not quite sure if that would work or not, and thought I'd get some opinions.
 
Not sure I understand what you mean. An SF series based on a quest for a cure for a plague but *not* in the B5 universe? Or a series based on the effects of alien technology? Presumably you'd use different characters, too so I don't get the 're-imagined' part.

The problem with any kind of quest series is that you can only string it along for so long before you kinda have to find the object of the quest. The technology angle might be more open-ended, depending on your approach.

Jan

Wasn't the Drakh plague going to be cured by the midle of the second season and that overall story arch was going to be something different revolving around the Shadow Mages?
 
I selected Crusade to be my entry point into the B5 universe proper and then it got axed. To this day I've still only seen 10 or less episodes of B5.
 
I selected Crusade to be my entry point into the B5 universe proper and then it got axed. To this day I've still only seen 10 or less episodes of B5.

That's unusual. Why go with the spin-off, instead of starting at the beginning?
 
Take note of the words "then it got axed".

Sounds like this was when CRUSADE originally aired, so the simple fact of the matter is that Craig didn't watch B5, but did start watching CRUSADE, only to have the rug pulled out from under him.
 
Anyone have any thoughts on whether or not the series could work as a standalone series (with the same title, but different characters and somewhat different setting and socio-political landscape)?
 
^ How would offering exposition about the social and socio-political landscape of Earth, the reasoning behind the aliens' bio-terror attack, and the reasoning behind the launching of the 'crusade' be 'tricky'? It's standard operating procedure for most TV series to explain stuff. JMS' Crusade didn't have to tackle the exposition only because it was a spin-off of B5.
 
Wasn't the Drakh plague going to be cured by the midle of the second season and that overall story arch was going to be something different revolving around the Shadow Mages?
That was why I asked the questions I did in the first reply to the original post. Yes, the plague was supposed to be cured early on and the series was supposed to end up being about something entirely different. Whether that was just the Techno-Mages or generally about the effects of Shadow Technology on the universe, we don't know at this point. Hopefully when the Crusade script books come out, JMS will tell all.

Anyone have any thoughts on whether or not the series could work as a standalone series (with the same title, but different characters and somewhat different setting and socio-political landscape)?

A quest story has built in limitations so an adventure story about the tech would probably be more viable.

I have to say, though, that by the time you finish changing all the elements you'd need to, you'd be better off trying to develop something original. Not to mention the fact that you'll never sell a new TV series without an already established background in TV production or a back door available via movies.

Jan
 
How about this:

It's the far future. Humanity has spread among a number of planets but hasn't contacted any form of intelligent alien life which hasn't been dead for some time.

The series opens with the anniversary of the end of a conflict between humans and telepaths which ended years ago. The peace between the humans and the telepaths has been a shaky one but it has been working so far. As a part of the anniversary, Earth military ships fly over the top of Earth dropping advanced fireworks in the sky. But one of the ships which is actually disguised as an Earth military ship ends up pouring streams of a non-toxic gas that contains a infectious virus. Before the other military ships could stop it, the ship self-destructed and the virus it has unleashed was already spreading.

With Earth under strict quarantine with no one or nothing coming in or out, the defacto President assigns scientists to study samples of the virus that were obtained by bio-teams. An archaeologist who happened to come across the viral study informed the President that the virus seems similar in origin to the remains of the First Ones on a dead planet he has been studying. The archaelogist joins a military team led by Captain Gideon sent to explore the planet to see if there could be a cure to the virus or uncover the people behind it.

They found neither and instead discovered a hidden map showing a chain of planets once inhabited by the First Ones before they disappeared thousands of years ago. On one of those planets could be the cure to the virus. So the President puts together a top-notch crew of military professionals and scientists to man the advanced prototype ship Excalibur on their mission to explore the First Ones' planets in hope of finding a cure. And if they manage a cure along the way between planets, that would do just fine. Gideon is put in charge of the Excalibur and the archaeologist becomes a member of the crew.

Breaking onto the ship is a thief named Dureena, whose family is on the virus-infected Earth. Not trusting the Earth military to share the cure with her kind of people, Dureena wants to take the cure to her family personally before any of them dies and make those responsible for the attack on Earth pay dearly.

And it turns out Gideon is harboring a secret of his own when he seems to have a mysterious friend in his corner that no one knows about. His friend calls himself a Technomage. He saved Gideon's life years ago and has been keeping an eye on him and visiting him from time to time ever since. He also gave Gideon a cryptic warning about the attack before Earth shortly before it happened. The Technomages were a colony of humans who left Earth centuries ago to develop their way of life in which they'll give themselves completely into technology and make it into their own personal magic. Many thought they were crazy and died during their journey.

During the Excalibur's quest to find a cure, trust issues emerge between the human and telepath members of the crew. Some think the ship disguised as an Earth military ship was used by the telepaths to deliver some kind of retribution against normal humans. And some who are telepaths think it was some kind of frame job directed towards them. Back on Earth, things are spiraling out of control threatening to undermine the human government and the control it is fighting to maintain on the other planets.

It will be hinted that the Technomages may have had something to do with the attack on Earth with the sole purpose of using humanity to find the First Ones that are still around and alive in the galaxy. The First Ones have something that could ascend the Technomages to the next level of their being. But the Technomages are unable to seek them out themselves because of something that blocks their kind yet not non-Technomage humans.

What do you think?
 
Here's a partial synopsis/run-down of my basic idea:
It's the dawn of the next century, and Earth, although somewhat of a utopian society, still has its separate nation-states, each of which still retains its unique culture and government. We, as humans, have also returned to exploring the stars, with several of the more prosperous and economically powerful and influential countries having banded together to create a unified space program which has expanded our reach and understanding of the universe far beyond our own solar system and galaxy. As the series begins, the planet is under a general uphoria of excitement over the discovery of a planet - located in a distant galaxy - which seems to have once been populated by intelligent life. What the explorers responsible for the discovery don't realize, however, is that the planet, while not currently inhabited, falls under the jurisdiction of a rather xenophobic alien empire, which views their incursion onto the planet as a hostile act, and, in response, follows the explorers back to Earth.

About a month or two after the explorers return to Earth, and with preparations underway for a return trip to the planet, the aliens who claim jurisdiction over it launch a surprise attack on the planet that kills hundreds of millions of people (wiping out the entire populations of several nations) and infects the remaining survivors with a deadly 'wasting disease' that will slowly result in the eventual extinction of human life as we know it. The aliens, satisfied that the incursion into their territory has been dealt with, depart. Meanwhile, Earth tries to rebuild, with the governments of the surviving nations banding together to create a coalitional government, and a team of scientists beginning to try and find a cure for the wasting disease, which leads to the discovery of a genetic link between the disease and the recently-discovered new planet, which prompts the immediate launch of the previously-planned expedition (which actually wasn't scheduled to be launched until months later) to the planet, this time with the specific intent of finding a way to cure the disease. This actually turns out to be but the first step in a long journey, and the bulk of the series would revolve around a 'crusade' to find the cure and, eventually lead to open conflict between Earth and the aliens responsible for the attack (since I happen to like sci-fi that revolves around or involves war).

Thoughts?
 
It might be tricky, since you'd have to do a lot of the exposition that B5 already covered.

Ignoring the original series, NuBSG did a good job of covering a lot of ground in the mini series.

Which incidentally is similar to what the OP is considering. A large event in the pilot triggers the rest of the series.
 
I selected Crusade to be my entry point into the B5 universe proper and then it got axed. To this day I've still only seen 10 or less episodes of B5.

That's unusual. Why go with the spin-off, instead of starting at the beginning?

Take note of the words "then it got axed".

Sounds like this was when CRUSADE originally aired, so the simple fact of the matter is that Craig didn't watch B5, but did start watching CRUSADE, only to have the rug pulled out from under him.
Exactly right gastrof. There was no Netflix in the mid 90's for me to catch up on B5 with. I had seen a handful of episodes and thought it looked like good space opera fair so when Crusade was announced it was to be my touchstone into that universe.
It'd be like telling someone not to watch a Trek spinoff without absolutely starting with TOS. Not needed but couldn't hurt. That was my attitude going into Crusade. Sure I'll miss some things but I'll play catch up as it goes.
 
It didn't work as a spin-off from B5, so if you can make it worth watching in any context you'll have succeeded where they failed.
 
It's been my experience that taking someone else's story, changing all the names and setting it in your own fictional universe is generally refereed to as "plagiarism".

You'd be better off writing your own stories than trying to adapt someone else's.
 
It's been my experience that taking someone else's story, changing all the names and setting it in your own fictional universe is generally refereed to as "plagiarism".

You'd be better off writing your own stories than trying to adapt someone else's.

To be fair, making a show set aboard spaceships with a crew trying to cure a plague is hardly a unique premise. DigificWriter's take actually reminds me of an old PC game called MANTIS. Insectoid aliens from a dying planet came to Earth, wiped out billions of people, then started infesting the survivors with their young. The larval aliens would attach to your spine, consume your organs while keeping you alive, and you didn't know anything was wrong until they split your chest open, full-grown. Nasty.
 
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