JJ (messed) STAR TREK UP AND WILL (mess) UP STAR WARS TOO
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Well when a kid tries to create them with Victorian era technology....
Heck, Nicholas Meyer directed and/or scripted three of the best STAR TREK movies, despite not being a lifelong fan.
The notion that "fans make the best films" is regularly contradicted by actual fan films.
Yeah, sometimes what a franchise needs is a new perspective, and fans tend to be more concerned with looking back than looking forward.
Perhaps the best thing to happen to Trek, as far as a fan-in-the-production was concerned was Ronald D. Moore.
He wrote "The Defector" and sold it to TNG, and things just seemed to take off for him (and Trek) from there...at least for a while.
But yes, Nick Meyer, as a non-fan, did a considerably great job with the TOS Trek movies, just as Abrams did with Trek 09 and STID.
So far, at least from the trailers, it looks like Abrams is the "good hands" that Star Wars needed, despite him being a big fan.
He wrote "The Defector" and sold it to TNG, and things just seemed to take off for him (and Trek) from there...at least for a while.
But yes, Nick Meyer, as a non-fan, did a considerably great job with the TOS Trek movies, just as Abrams did with Trek 09 and STID.
So far, at least from the trailers, it looks like Abrams is the "good hands" that Star Wars needed, despite him being a big fan.
DAMN YOU, ADDAMS - er - ABRAMS!
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If I wigged out every time Trek did something I didn't like I would have quit being a fan a loooong time ago.
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If I wigged out every time Trek did something I didn't like I would have quit being a fan a loooong time ago.
Buy Meyer was so on-target in understanding what ST required. That is almost as important as going into a production as a fan. He brought out the best of what the actors and general feel of ST had established in TOS and made it work--beautifully--on the big screen. But that took understanding. You don't see the same kind of series-saving praise given to Abrams' involvement in ST.
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You invalidate your own protest, as you conveniently ignore the personal attacks, disgusting photos, etc., all aimed a fellow member..all because he does not like the deservedly questioned JJ Abrams.
You are defending being childish and vile, which robs you of any high ground.
..and for the members who spent pages claiming a forum allows this kind of behavior, guess again:
This is far beyond disagreeing, but pages of personal attacks, and the rules do not support that, or offensive photos.
You invalidate your own protest, as you conveniently ignore the personal attacks, disgusting photos, etc., all aimed a fellow member..all because he does not like the deservedly questioned JJ Abrams.
You are defending being childish and vile, which robs you of any high ground.
..and for the members who spent pages claiming a forum allows this kind of behavior, guess again:
http://www.trekbbs.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_flames
This is far beyond disagreeing, but pages of personal attacks, and the rules do not support that, or offensive photos.
No, he wrote "The Bonding" which is how he got his foot in the door. "The Defector" came after that.
By many accounts Baird was not. Logan was.
Re: JJ FUCKED STAR TREK UP AND WILL FUCK UP STAR WARS TOO
Do you have an actual opinion about the premise of the thread, which is that lens flares have ruined The Force Awakens before it even premieres? Otherwise what is it you are doing here besides trying to shout down everyone else? You don't control the thread, stop pretending that you do.
Do you have an actual opinion about the premise of the thread, which is that lens flares have ruined The Force Awakens before it even premieres? Otherwise what is it you are doing here besides trying to shout down everyone else? You don't control the thread, stop pretending that you do.
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It's not my job, or yours for that matter, to police this thread. We have moderators for that. And where exactly did I defend anyone? I was simply replying to your statement that we should stay out of the thread. It's a discussion forum, not an "agree with the OP or don't post" forum.
It's not my job, or yours for that matter, to police this thread. We have moderators for that. And where exactly did I defend anyone? I was simply replying to your statement that we should stay out of the thread. It's a discussion forum, not an "agree with the OP or don't post" forum.
Holy shit! Abrams has mastered time travel! I was watching Revenge of the Sith today and there were lens flares! He went back and inserted lens flares into the movie!
DAMN YOU, ABRAMS!
Right you are. Wasn't sure what I was thinking there.
DAMN YOU, ABRAMS!
Right you are. Wasn't sure what I was thinking there.
I actually see quite a few people that have praised Abrams for saving the franchise.
Ssshhh! Don't confuse the issue with facts!
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He made Star Wars look too much like Star Trek...
He made Star Wars look too much like Star Trek...
The last thing Trek needs is to be run by fans.
Pretty much makes useless and pointless all criticisms and posts on these forums.
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