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Jennifer Lien In Legal Trouble Again

meh, what is this bullshit about exposing herself in front of kids to make a point in a neighbours war. If she was man we wouldn't be all POOR KES.
 
I thought we figured out that it was an argument about breast feeding?

One of the neighbour kids in their own front lawn wasn't being fed, because the neighbour lady didn't want to feed her children outside, or go inside to feed them, or stop the kid yapping and bawling about being starving.

Yes, it is a double standard, but men do not produce that sort of milk, so "his" flash would be out of context, in a similar situation... Or did you mean that it is rarely illegal for men to walk around with exposed breasts?
 
No it was not. That was 100% conjecture. Okay tell me the facts again, if such exist.

Kids cry for all kinds of reasons including wanting boob lunch when mom doesn't want to give them more boob lunch. This has nothing to do with anyone other than the mom in question which was NOT Lien. And if there was some sort of actual starvation of babies going on here you can bet we would have read about it by now.

KES arrested for SAVING BABIES

And there IS no context here.. I don't get some pass for flashing by boobs at children because the context was breastfeeding when they weren't my offspring. That's a huge reach.
 
I'm not saying that Jennifer is not clinically unbalanced.

It's just nice to be able to understand the steps Jen took to get from minding her own business to flashing her vagina at a 4 year old.
 
When I see a sexually unsatisfied woman, I show my penis to her boyfriend so that he knows what he needs to do.

Never been arrested once.
 
Further information was found further along.

http://wate.com/2015/09/15/star-tre...ith-exposing-herself-to-children-in-harriman/

(I'm filling in a couple gaps, but this is 55 percent of what really happened.)

2 kids crying like no one is looking after them.

Crazy Jennifer "Hey you, Look after your kids".

Stuck up neighbour "Your opinion is worth shit".

Crazy Jennifer "Shit? No friend, my opinion is worth tits! These are my tits! Woo hoo!"

Stuck up neighbour "Hello, 911? I can see boobs."

:(

You don't pick a fight with crazy.

Considering how anal most Home Owners Associations can get, Carey the neighbour lady might have been as batshit as Jennifer.
 
Her vagina? that isn't even "look sweetie, I GOT LUNCH when mommy denies you!"

The steps ameliorate nothing.

The steps do ameloriate nothing.

I agree, but there's a logical progression. A flawed logical progression is way better than picking a fight with children because Satan ordered her to. Which to me sounds like anger management rather than bipolar behaviour.

If however she was sane... Sometimes you get into a position where you have to punch someone as hard as you can or you do something silly to calm stuff down without coming off as a coward. I don't think that's what happened. My best guess is that Carey the stuck up neighbour lady said something awful about Jennifer losing her own children, but that is only a guess. Jennifer called Carey the stuck up neighbour lady a bad parent, so Jennifer's own parenting was fair game.

Seriously though, Jennifer wasn't walking around starkers, she was flashing her parts briefly, and screaming "woo hoo" covering them up again, and then flashing again and saying "woo hoo" again & again like Morse code with nipples. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. I am crazy, so I understand what that means completely. Carey the stuck up neighbour lady must have made some comment about how breasts are not allowed to be exposed ever for any circumstances even if her young children are crying. "Woo Hoo" totally means that the target of that "Woo Hoo" is a sanctimonious twit who needs a chillpill and perspective because breasts are completely benign and natural and shouldn't be treated like filth.

Jennifer thought wrongly that she was in a morally superior position where she had to teach civility to a backward Victorian moron, and only wound up in jail because of how completely she misread the situation.

Again Jennifer is crazy, but only an asshole calls 911 because they see breasts and feels threatened by them, which is what Carey said, she felt that Jennifer would escalate to violence next, which is why the police had to come and save Carey's family as immediately as possible.

It took the cops three days to get there and check out the situation.
 
Where is Kes's vagina in this story?

Kes' vagina's are on the side of her face.

Jennifer Lien's vagina, maybe may not have been part of this story, I could have just assumed or imagined it's presence in this....

That’s when things got even stranger.

“All of a sudden, here come the shirt up. She started flashing and, ‘Woo hoo,’ and I said, ‘And what respect is that for kids?’ There was none. And then she turned around and dropped her pants,” said Smith.

Parents, worried things might escalate, then called 911.

“I didn’t understand why she was doing it,” said Kayla Clark.

(Kayla. What a beautiful name.)

Anyway, "drop pants" must mean vagina? Or possibly her ass?

Would Jennifer have gotten in less trouble if she'd just beaten Carey the stuck up neighbour lady bloody and unconscious?
 
I am a bit agape at your swamp of conjecture here Guy. Though it does speak well of you that you flail so to defend a total stranger who was once on television show you post about from time to time. And I'm not being sarcastic here, it's nice. I hope Lien has as nice people at her back IRL.

I feel bad she lost both her kids, though it may be best for the children. But it's a plunge and a depth that can't really be compared to a lot of shitholes folk end up in. They are little still, let's hope she can get help and her shit together so she can be there for them in the future.
 
When did Joe Carey get involved in this? I never saw any signs that he had a problem with Kes.
 
Also. As to vaginas. It still irks me, no DISGUSTS me that the vulva has been hijacked to be the vagina, the freaking BIRTH CANAL aka the HOLE in my lifetime. No one wants the word to describe the outer genitals. This is bullshit but I scream that into the maelstrom.. to my chagrin I am now a vagina luddite. The ultimate personal irony.
 
I am a bit agape at

your swamp of conjecture here Guy. Though it does speak well of you

that you flail so to defend a total stranger who was once on

television show you post about from time to time. And I'm not being

sarcastic here, it's nice. I hope Lien has as nice people at her

back IRL.

I feel bad she lost both her kids, though it may be best for the

children. But it's a plunge and a depth that can't really be

compared to a lot of shitholes folk end up in. They are little

still, let's hope she can get help and her shit together so she can

be there for them in the future.

It seems like I researched the subject thoroughly, months ago. I just can't be bothered finding all the links to the "news" I read to justify some of what I said above. Sorry.

When a kid is throwing apples at a dog as hard as he can, do you blame the kid or the dog, when the dog bites the kid?

One point that was brought up, is that if these two women had been living next door to each other for months/years, then that 911 call was probably about a lot more than what happened on September 1st 2015.

Last time I did this, I didn't watch the news report at the top of the page I linked because my then ancient pc at the time, resisted streaming links.

Hmmm...

So that's Carey?

"Hi Carey, I love your hair."

I feel bad about calling Carey stuck up 15 times.

I was imagining someone like from Desperate Housewives measuring lawn height, trying to maintain the purity of the neighbourhood. The truth does not fall even close to that.

No, I think, if this interview is anything to go by, that Carey would be completely blind sided by the situation that presented itself that day, and Jennifer was just a menace to society. Although it felt like it was the other mother in the interview who made the 911 call, not that it mattered who called the police because steps did have to be taken if Jennifer was unprovoked and her episode did not seem isolated.

My real problem with this situation is that Jennifer, as bananpants as she was, picking a fight with an adult, using "nudity" instead of her fists, and as a thank you for not putting her knuckles though Carey's face, someone decided to charge Jennifer with a sex crime against children, which will put her on the sex crimes paedophile registry for the rest of her life, when Carey, an adult, was the real target of Lein's bosoms, and not the unfortunately nearby children.

Even if Jennifer was an unmedicated whacko having a tantrum, that does seem disproportionate and insincere to put the woman in a situation where she can never work again and needs permission to cross state lines, and has to immediately introduce herself as a paedophile to all her neighbours whenever she changes residence.

Wow.

That would be an awful reality show.

"Welcome to the neighbourhood: The Sex Registry Files"

A camera crew documenting/following the introductions a paedo has to make to all their neighbours, whenever they move house.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender_registries_in_the_United_States

It's a thing.

She won't be on it until, or if she's convicted of the crimes she is charged with.

Exposing herself to three minors under the age of 12.

There are search engines, where you can look up how many sex offenders live near your house (if you live in the States).

The engine results I saw, looked similar to google maps on the site I used to look at a friends house in Michigan, and how intimately she is surrounded by sex offenders.
 
While I'm sympathetic to those whose dumbness has propelled them onto the sex offender's register I am also unsympathetic towards folk being too stupid to not act out in a way that is sexually inappropriate.

As much as this longass story seeks to rehabilitate Lien it must by definition seek to vilify Carey. We have no fucking idea what actually occurred and the conjecture is getting very thick and sticky here.
 
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