I'm assuming she ignored the letter, which is why she knew they were coming, and why it took 3 days.
This smells of pride.
This smells of pride.
Jennifer Lien In Legal Trouble Again
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You know what I want to know? Where is her family? And why have they left her there on purpose?
If you do a Google search of her, on the side it links to her husband (and son, though he's just 13) both of whom have credits from 2015 in their IMDb profiles. She's still apparently married to her husband, and while it doesn't give any context or information, her mother seems to be alive and in the picture - she's likely only in her 60s. The bail was set at $2500, and in most cases you only need to put up 10% of that. But she was arrested Sept 4, and when this all hit the news it was the 14th or so and she was still in jail.
Logically, one can only deduce that it seems her family has opted to leave her there. Perhaps for her own safety? Perhaps for theirs? Perhaps in the hope of the system intervening with the probable mental health help she needs?
Granted, we can't know the exact status and details of her family connections, nor their financial states. So this is just assumption based on circumstantial evidence. But I know if one of my relatives was in jail, I'd have put up the money to get them out sooner - unless I was at my wits end and grateful they where locked up and unable to do more harm in the world. Which is why I think this is the case here; that they're letting her stay there because they don't know what else to do.
Sadly, the correctional system in our country - especially on a rural county level - is beyond capable of helping someone with any serious mental illness. So all it's really doing is keeping her out of more trouble, not getting her any help.
If you do a Google search of her, on the side it links to her husband (and son, though he's just 13) both of whom have credits from 2015 in their IMDb profiles. She's still apparently married to her husband, and while it doesn't give any context or information, her mother seems to be alive and in the picture - she's likely only in her 60s. The bail was set at $2500, and in most cases you only need to put up 10% of that. But she was arrested Sept 4, and when this all hit the news it was the 14th or so and she was still in jail.
Logically, one can only deduce that it seems her family has opted to leave her there. Perhaps for her own safety? Perhaps for theirs? Perhaps in the hope of the system intervening with the probable mental health help she needs?
Granted, we can't know the exact status and details of her family connections, nor their financial states. So this is just assumption based on circumstantial evidence. But I know if one of my relatives was in jail, I'd have put up the money to get them out sooner - unless I was at my wits end and grateful they where locked up and unable to do more harm in the world. Which is why I think this is the case here; that they're letting her stay there because they don't know what else to do.
Sadly, the correctional system in our country - especially on a rural county level - is beyond capable of helping someone with any serious mental illness. So all it's really doing is keeping her out of more trouble, not getting her any help.
Based on what others have said on other trek boards it appears Lien was arrested in 2012 for domestic assault against her mother whom she was living with at the time. I don't if she and her husband are still married but they're defiantly not together.
I hope she gets the helps she clearly needs.
I saw this story on the Daily Mail yesterday if her name hadn't have been in the headline there is no way I would have recognised her.
Because that doesn't work?
I have a feeling that help from her family can't be expected.
As for treating of mental illness, that seems to be a problem in more countries than the US. In Sweden when a problem occurs, they take them in, give them some pills and then they are out on the street on their own again. Despite a monthly or so appointment with their doctor to get more pills and a small sum of money from the "social service" which is hardly enough to pay a possible rent, they are basically on their own.
Still better than the lock-them-up school of rehab practiced here. It doesn't help that area of the country is like ground zero for meth production.
There are alot of things in the western societies which could have been much better.
As for support from families and relatives, it's not so easy as it is in Jeri Taylor's books where happiness can be achieved if you can overcome your possible father complex and have a nice, cozy family which you can sing a song together with and everything will turn out fine.
Unfortunately, life is more complicated than that and things don't always work out fine.
As for support from families and relatives, it's not so easy as it is in Jeri Taylor's books where happiness can be achieved if you can overcome your possible father complex and have a nice, cozy family which you can sing a song together with and everything will turn out fine.
Unfortunately, life is more complicated than that and things don't always work out fine.
I know from personal experience - currently dealing with a meth addicted niece who may also have some mental problems, she's been living a really dangerous lifestyle, living with thugs, not working, high every day. She got arrested yesterday and the whole family is relieved. She's safer now than she's been in months and it looks like she's going to get court ordered rehab. No one is going to bail her out because she'll just run and continue her same dangerous lifestyle.
So I can the situation that might lead to someone's family not bailing them out of jail for the right reasons.
I've been thinking about Jennifer a lot, as I am a big fan. It's kind of a strange coincidence that her problems are similar in nature and timing to my niece. Unfortunately there's only so much anyone can do for someone else in that situation. We've tried and ultimately there comes a point when someone in that situation has to be the one to help themself.
So I can the situation that might lead to someone's family not bailing them out of jail for the right reasons.
I've been thinking about Jennifer a lot, as I am a big fan. It's kind of a strange coincidence that her problems are similar in nature and timing to my niece. Unfortunately there's only so much anyone can do for someone else in that situation. We've tried and ultimately there comes a point when someone in that situation has to be the one to help themself.
Children can cry in their own homes. Keep walking was the right advice.
I wouldn't have either. That color mugshot on the news site looks like a dude
People used to say that when she was on Voyager.
Leave Jennifer ALONE! 
ETA: Reminds me when Britney Spears went off the rails but not so bad.
ETA: Reminds me when Britney Spears went off the rails but not so bad.
Toilet wine isn't just for prisons anymore.
Although what's the line between homebrew and bootlegging?
Although what's the line between homebrew and bootlegging?
The Illuminati are clearly involved. 
I suppose if you're a masonic trillionaire who controls the entire world that there are still parts of the planet you secretly own, like Tennessee which you still personally might not want to touch.
Well that confirms my theory that it was about "shitty parenting" and not about "annoying children" (Which makes Jennifer much less of an asshole.) and further more that the target of the flashing was the parent(s) and not the children.
Given the choice of someone throwing a broken bottle at my face, or flashing a tit, I can see that my assailant is attempting to be constructive. Although the neighbour claims that she called 911 because she was afraid of "escalation" which might mean Jennifer flashing her pussy, or might mean Jennifer setting fire to the mail box.
Jennifer might be being a dick, but this neighbour remains to be a super prude who is ashamed of the human body.
HOWEVER since Jennifer was not on her own property while flashing her neighbours she has lost a lot of righteousness on his position. On her own property she would be in the right (BARELY and ALMOST), on the side walk maybe it's a 911 call (if you're an asshole, honestly if a crazy lady shows you her boobs ANGRILY, you roll your eyes and go about your business.), but if Jennifer was doing this while standing on her neighbours lawn, as I understand American law, she could have been shot with out any legal consequences to the shooter.
(Some hypotheticals.)
"Hey! Your kid is crying, go give him a hug."
"We don't need advice from your sort. Your kid dosen't even want to live with you."
Or
"Go look after your child."
"Go on a diet you fat pig."
Seriously, no mother responds well to being called a bad parent, so I don't think the neighbour lady is at all innocent, and must have provoked Jennifer unless our friend is completely irrationally unhinged or on the Meth.
But you can get to meth levels of crazy with booze, it just takes longer to get there and it fades more faster. The worse you get on hard drugs, the harder it is to hide the evidence that you are on drugs.
Maybe she's doing a Leaving Las Vegas?
Given the choice of someone throwing a broken bottle at my face, or flashing a tit, I can see that my assailant is attempting to be constructive. Although the neighbour claims that she called 911 because she was afraid of "escalation" which might mean Jennifer flashing her pussy, or might mean Jennifer setting fire to the mail box.
Jennifer might be being a dick, but this neighbour remains to be a super prude who is ashamed of the human body.
HOWEVER since Jennifer was not on her own property while flashing her neighbours she has lost a lot of righteousness on his position. On her own property she would be in the right (BARELY and ALMOST), on the side walk maybe it's a 911 call (if you're an asshole, honestly if a crazy lady shows you her boobs ANGRILY, you roll your eyes and go about your business.), but if Jennifer was doing this while standing on her neighbours lawn, as I understand American law, she could have been shot with out any legal consequences to the shooter.
(Some hypotheticals.)
"Hey! Your kid is crying, go give him a hug."
"We don't need advice from your sort. Your kid dosen't even want to live with you."
Or
"Go look after your child."
"Go on a diet you fat pig."
Seriously, no mother responds well to being called a bad parent, so I don't think the neighbour lady is at all innocent, and must have provoked Jennifer unless our friend is completely irrationally unhinged or on the Meth.
But you can get to meth levels of crazy with booze, it just takes longer to get there and it fades more faster. The worse you get on hard drugs, the harder it is to hide the evidence that you are on drugs.
Maybe she's doing a Leaving Las Vegas?
Keep walking. And seek help. Kids cry and scream.... in their own house, so what?
This isn't complicated. Lein has a track record, and needs help.
This isn't complicated. Lein has a track record, and needs help.
Help for what?
It's been hard enough to figure out what she did, god forbid why she did it.
The most likely candidates in no particular order.
1. Mental illness.
2. Prescription Pills.
3. Booze.
4. Meth.
5. Class A drugs (Heroin, cocaine, etc.).
6. Nothing.
7. A combination of the above.
8. All of the above.
It's been hard enough to figure out what she did, god forbid why she did it.
The most likely candidates in no particular order.
1. Mental illness.
2. Prescription Pills.
3. Booze.
4. Meth.
5. Class A drugs (Heroin, cocaine, etc.).
6. Nothing.
7. A combination of the above.
8. All of the above.
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