Yeah not a legit, well crafted and completely sensible backstory like Sela's.
Jason Isaacs Reveals his condition for returning to Star Trek
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Just MCU Ant-Man it.
Stamets: “On our last jump, I saw a life form in the mycelial network. I think it was human.”
Burnham: “Someone could be trapped in there, like Dr Culber. If we jump again, can you keep us in the network long enough for us get a transporter lock on them?”
Yadda yadda yadda
Burnham: “Lorca!? It’s been 930 years! How did you survive?”
Prime Lorca: “YEARS? It’s only been minutes for me.”
Stamets: “On our last jump, I saw a life form in the mycelial network. I think it was human.”
Burnham: “Someone could be trapped in there, like Dr Culber. If we jump again, can you keep us in the network long enough for us get a transporter lock on them?”
Yadda yadda yadda
Burnham: “Lorca!? It’s been 930 years! How did you survive?”
Prime Lorca: “YEARS? It’s only been minutes for me.”
Save him for the after credits of the season final. A naked man is seen staggering through the corridors of Discovery with his face out of focus so we don't know who it is. He collapses forward clearly injured. Tilly just happens to be walking buy and rushes over to help him and turns him over and blam we see his face. It's Lorca. Tilly says "Lorca! But your suppose to be dead!" Lorca grabs her shoulders to drive home his next words. "No! I'm Prime Lorca! Burnham must come back to the past with me or the whole Universe will explode!" Then he passes out. End scene and end episode.
As much as I like Jason Isaacs, Prime Lorca is DEAD.
Not unless Isaacs says so.
No, he wouldn't.
Prime Lorca can be whatever the writers (and Isaacs) make him. Which is, whatever they want.
The writers had Admiral Cornwell declare that Prime Lorca couldn't have survived on his own in the Mirror Universe for a reason.
The chances of the writers changing their minds are very slim at this point.
So, I'll repeat what I said: Prime Lorca is DEAD.
And if there's one thing media literacy has taught me, it's that if one character who cannot possibly know for certain emphatically and unambiguously declares another character is dead sight unseen, it's definitely the writers' way of telling you they're really dead. The show is absolutely not setting you up to be punked when the character, shockingly, turns out to be alive after all.
It really is absolutely amazing how you keep contradicting yourself. You have previously stated the opinion (and got blue in the face reiterating it over and over and over again) that SNW has to use the Enterprise bridge crew from Such Sweet Sorrow because they were featured in the novel The Enterprise War or explain why they aren't there. But you say that Prime Lorca is definitely dead just because Admiral Cornwell gave the opinion that he is, despite the fact that Prime Lorca was featured alive and well (or as well as one can be in a Terran Empire prison) in the novel Drastic Measures.
Of course, your opinion about SNW and The Enterprise War contradicted your previous opinion that the arrival of the Enterprise and Pike in Disco season 1 finale was planned right from the start ("backwards engineered" I believe is the term you used) despite the fact that David Mack stated in Desperate Hours this is not the case.
So, what, the novels only count when they back up your claim, but don't when they contradict it?
Lorca will be dead right up until they decide they want him alive again.
Mirror Lorca, unlike Mirror Kirk and Scotty and so on, was savvy enough to pick up on his location and infiltrate his new world for over a year. I feel that Non-Mirror/Regular Lorca may have been savvy enough to survive in the cruel universe, especially since the feat had been accomplished by Non-Mirror/Regular Kirk, Scotty, Burnham, the DS9 folks, etc.
Cornwell underestimated him.
Cornwell underestimated him.
As much as I loved Lorca before the mirror-universe-revealing (when he became a parody of himself in my eyes), I would say, that the 'real Lorca train' is gone. While I never had something against all the crossovers and reappearings, it would be too much 'small world syndrome' for me, if Lorca popped up in the 32th century, too. The only possiblity, I see, would be an appearance in 'Strange worlds'... and yeah, the Lorca-Pike-pairing would be something, I could imagine very well...
You are aware that the novel Drastic Measures is set 10 years before the events of Star Trek Discovery Season 1, right?
Not sure what that has to do with anything. The post credit scene, where Lorca appears alive in the Mirror Universe is obviously set after he got transported to the MU, 2256 or later.
Also, Lorca remarks that "they want him alive", and he has clearly been in this prison for some time. Of course that doesn't prove that he's still alive by the time of DSC season 1, but it is definitely possible.
Plus, wherever he is held captive, has to be under the control of some part of the Empire, that doesn't report to Georgiou, since she wasn't aware of his existance in season 1.
I wasn't aware that Drastic Measures featured a post-2256 Mirror Univere appearance from Prime Lorca.
Then why the fuck did you think I brought it up?
Because Prime Lorca is a major protagonist of Drastic Measures' main story, which is set 10 years before DSC Season 1.
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