If you haven't read the theory / watched the video, then you don't have the context for a conversation on why its awesome. Its actually a pretty convincing argument.
Jar Jar Binks and Anakin Skywalker... am I the only one who understood what George Lucas made?
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I always thought that Ahmed Best himself created Jar-Jar's personality (in addition to voicing him), including his name.
Is there a way to explain this theory for those of us who don't have 48minutes to watch the video?I haven't read this whole thread, but has anyone seen the on line theory that Jar Jar was secretly a Sith Lord? Its actually a pretty awesome idea.
Binks--the closest I ever heard to that was Pix
Remember NBC's Real People? The original that ABC copied with That's Incredible?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_People
Skip Stevenson's name was said backwards by a guest--and came out as Picks Noseniffen
Have you ever heard of Benedict Arnold? He was arrogant, immature and couldn't keep it under control and got ripped off by the American Patriot army. That's Anakin Skywalker for you.
First of all, sorry I missed this but I didn't see in a quote notification.
Secondly, I don't know how else to explain it. I'm not saying "Here's the checklist of evil. You have not answered question 6, 34 and 85. Application denied." I'm saying that his mom dies and he rage kills the Sand People, but he feels regret. Where is that with Palpatine? He's so terrified of losing Padme that he burns the entire Jedi Order to the ground? I'm sorry, that's a bit of leap. I can't bridge that logic. The Jedi are not responsible for Padme's death, so slaughtering them make no sense.
So, yes, there are a variety of reasons people become evil. I just think Anakin's is a giant leap forward because "He has to become Darth Vader." It doesn't feel organic from the story.
It still doesn't make sense as far a a character choice to me. Sorry, it feels like a jump to go from "What have I done?" to "Kill all Jedi."
There's a rationale that isn't working for me.
There's a rationale that isn't working for me.
Jar Jar could've been cool, if the script allowed for it, but what really annoys me about him is that ILM wasn't ready for him. They could get the shading and colour pretty close to damn it, but ... they never did get the clothes to look believable and that always compromised his believability. Sometimes, though ... we just got too good a look at him and he started falling apart, that way. But even now, I don't really care about Jar Jar's actual presence in the film, or what George was trying to achieve with him. I just feel that he forced it, too heavily, that he pushed it too far and that he was only partially successful.
The basic idea is that all of the lucky bounces and trips of Jar Jar being insanely successful are actually his using the Force, comparing it to a kind of "Drunken Ninja Master" style of misdirection. They point out that if any human character had done the kind of 20 foot somersault jump into the water, it would have been seen as a Jedi move. They think there is a deeper meaning to the line "there is always a bigger fish." That it isn't luck that they found him, or that he talked his way into them going a certain way, or needing his help, or whatever; How unlikely it is that he accompanies them on such important missions, and so clearly in the wrong habitat (the desert.) They think that Jar Jar's rudeness and disrespect to the Jedi in front of Anakin is planting the seed of disrespect. That every spectacle he makes is for an intended reason, like meeting Anakin. That he may have sabotaged the ships hyperdrive, and that he was being sneaky in the ship. They point out that every time he gets an undue promotion to some type of power, he is waving his hands around, like a Force Persuasion. They point out that he is still at Palpatine's side, years later, for some reason. They dissect the scene where he falls off the castle wall during a fight scene, then comes crashing down in the wrong place, implying another jump. They think that he was supposed to be Yoda's darkside counterpart, and that the big Twist Reveal of Episode 2 was going to be Jar Jar as a Sith, leading to a confrontation between him and Yoda, instead of Dooku, implying that Dooku was a hastily written addition to the 2nd movie when the Jar Jar plans got scrapped, due to all the hatred piled on the character. They compare him to a character named Bink in some scifi/fantasy story, where everyone has magic but him, until it is revealed he does have magic, but that it manifests itself in the form of luck. They also compare it to another story where the comic jester of a character ends up being the dark lord hiding in plain sight while manipulating his way to galactic power. I'm forgetting the small details at the moment, though. But that is the jist of it.
There is a robot chicken sketch from a few years ago that makes this same joke, so some wonder if the robot chicken guy knew something we didn't. And, i guess the jar jar voice actor made some cryptic tweets that can be taken as complete support of the theory... something like its good when the truth finally comes out...#TPM. or something like that. All I know is that it is creepy as hell to think of Jar Jar raising his hands, force persuasion-ing the entire galactic senate into giving up democracy. Oh yeah, they go into his yellow sith eyes a bit, too, and the fact that his people are terrified of him being there, freaking out way beyond the appearance of just the town idiot. and some even suggest that he is Darth Plageus, jumping body to body (literally becoming the bigger fish that eats the smaller fish while jar jar's body is passed out.) There is a scene where his mouth is moving a little bit in the background while possibly controlling someone. They keep pointing out that as a cgi character, every tiny detail is done on purpose. They suggest that it was all supposed to parallel with Yoda, who misrepresented himself to Luke, and acted like the strange weird hermit in the woods, until revealing himself as the Jedi Master.
Basically, something was supposed to be a bit off about the Jar Jar character, so we would all go Oh Shit! and the shitty 1st movie would be completely saved and perception altered by The Twist. Everyone noticed something was off, but the things that would seem awesome and manipulative if we knew the twist, came across as juvenile and way too lucky/breaking the 4th wall, and it takes us out of the moment, and feeling that something is off, but misinterpreting what and why, it turned into an insane amount of hate on the character, and that with such a big budget franchise riding on it, Lucas was forced to change plans for the 2nd movie big time (which is confirmed fact.) Considering how secretive Lucas was about the vader twist in V, there really is a tiny bit of believability here.
There are 10 minute videos of the theory if you don't want to watch the hour long one (which covers more details and background then the other ones of course.) Its a fun video/idea for sure..
No, this is a serious theory of a theorized cancelled plot twist. It starts out as people thinking it is a joke,until they watch the videos, and then it grew into something more. The tweet from the real voice actor is what makes me really wonder.
https://twitter.com/ahmedbest/status/661221044712148993
Heres a 15 minute one.
https://twitter.com/ahmedbest/status/661221044712148993
Heres a 15 minute one.
Jar Jar could've been cool...if he hadn't been such a rastafarian stepinfetchit clown.
Thats the point of this theory.... that the entire clown thing is an act... we were MEANT to notice it was wrong. 
"rastafarian stepinfetchit"? So . . . if Jar Jar had been portrayed by a white actor and in the same manner, would anyone have called him this? I realized that he still would have been accused of not being "cool"
, which is incredibly shallow to me. But is with this accusation of being a "rastafarian stepinfetchit" . . . I don't know what to say about this. I have a theory about certain fans' dislike of Jar Jar . . . and it's not very complimentary.So . . . are you angry at Anakin for betraying the Jedi, something that you knew was going to happen? And so you have decided to compare him to Benedict Arnold? Okaay . . .
If Jar-Jar had been played by a white actor, that would have been more offensive, at least to me."rastafarian stepinfetchit"? So . . . if Jar Jar had been portrayed by a white actor and in the same manner, would anyone have called him this? I realized that he still would have been accused of not being "cool"
As for disliking Jar-Jar, he's just not funny to me.
Make of it what you will.
Benedict Arnold at least would have given an interesting framework to base Anakin's character on, so I don't see the issue.
Also, I feel like I should be having an emotional reaction Anakin's betrayal. I feel like I should feel like telling him to stop, to not do it, that the Jedi are there for him. The idea that I should feel something about these characters is rather odd, given that it is emotional investment in characters that makes films enjoyable for me.
In fact, my larger argument against Anakin is that I feel very little emotional investment for him. I don't feel like he is a real person making difficult choices. I feel like is a fate puppet, going wherever the script says he must go, on a collision with destiny that is neither avoidable nor does anyone try to avoid it. Anakin feels like a petulant child who demands his way.
I want to like him, and the novelizations did a lot to help that. But, my initial response to him in the theaters, aside from some choice moments, is one of frustration.
Don't be shy."rastafarian stepinfetchit"? So . . . if Jar Jar had been portrayed by a white actor and in the same manner, would anyone have called him this? I realized that he still would have been accused of not being "cool"
So . . . are you angry at Anakin for betraying the Jedi, something that you knew was going to happen? And so you have decided to compare him to Benedict Arnold? Okaay . . .