Re: James Cawley (New Voyages) has seen the Ship (Its Aweful
DeafPoet said:
ancient said:I doubt if the public has any list of demands about movie spaceships.
It doesn't have any list it's aware of but it knows what it likes. Personally, I'm not far enough removed from Trek to really know what people would think of a direct recreation of the original Enterprise.
The overwhelming majority of the moviegoing public wont know or care if the intercoolers are "off" a little bit... but most are visually familiar with the original design. You can show it to anyone on any street in the US and in most places in the world and they'll recognize it. Show them something else and they may say "that's a spaceship" or "that's a Star Trek ship" but show them the ORIGINAL 1701 and it's almost universally recognized.
(Even in places like Addis Abuba, Ethiopia... people there know the Enterprise. I'm serious... it's world-wide.)
SO... give the audience something significantly different (and that includes "it has the basic components but arranged a little differently) and the audience will certainly, to one extent or another, feel "discomfort." The more familiar someone is with the original show, the more uncomfortable they'll be.
For however bad the "The Dukes of Hazard" flick was, they at least had the good sense not to make the General Lee another model of car. I can't image that J.J. Abrams is dumber than the folks who did THAT movie.
Seriously... THERE ARE MULTIPLE STARSHIPS FROM MULTIPLE RACES which will be seen in this movie. And there's also a concerted effort to spread some "misinformation" to stir up the "viral advertising" campaign. So I'm absolutely not taking anything I'm being told for granted.
I'm willing to go on-record... I believe without any real doubt that we WILL see the NCC-1701 in this film, but that it will not be the primary setting of the film. I believe that the 1701 will be VERY CLOSE to the original pre-TOS design. I believe we'll see at least one other, unrelated "hero ship" (which I believe will be Kirk's prior command... I'm still hoping they name it the "Alexander" but I understand that it's probably not going to be called that... damn... ). Not to mention the "old Spock's era" ship(s) and the Romulan spy ship. PLENTY of things to look at.
And plenty of things for people to catch glimpses of and become confused by. Kirk's command will definitely be a Starfleet ship, yet it's not a Constitution-class, we know that much. And while I'd LOVE for it to be a Baton Rouge class, I pretty much know it's not going to be at this point (shame, since I'd love to see the Baton Rouge on-screen!)
James... I know you probably feel like you may have "said too much" already. But if,in fact, you've been shown a work-in-progress...
(1) are you CERTAIN that it's the Enterprise, and not some other Starfleet (or other?) ship?
(2) is there anything you can say about whatever ship you saw (Enterprise or not) that you feel you can share without, say, betraying the trust of your source?
You stepped up and made comments 'bout this, sooo... it's only fair that you help dispel the firestorm your comments raised, ya know?
