James Cameron's Avatar movies discussion thread.

[YellowSubmarine]

That looks absolutely incredible, I also see the speculations followed by rumours appear to have been true and that is nice since it's how I wanted the imagine the story would continue, though the trailer does (at least) appear to be out of order to conceal the actual chain of events overall. Yet still way more revealing than the Way of Water trailers - or at least so it seems.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Will the next movie feature a tribe who lives in the earth?

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Will the next movie feature a tribe who lives in the earth?

There was speculations, rumours or at least fan wishes of setting part of a future movie on Earth, to address the elephant in the room with the situation there, even Neytiri being hooked up in a hospital situation kind of made me think of that. I never thought it was possible to visit with existing characters, since that would add another 8 year jump (admittedly, the child actors would age and they took a large break after shooting all needed scenes with them, so there is such a time jump here, but I thought it would be in this movie).

Anyway, long story short, the earth in a future title may refer to, well, the Earth.

 

[JD]

I could swear I read an interview with James Cameron where he at least didn't rule out visiting Earth at some point. After 3 movies with characters from Earth experiencing life on Pandora it could be fun to flip it and have at least one movie with the Na'vi experiencing life on Earth. Maybe they could find away flip the whole Avatar thing and put the Na'vi characters in human bodies while they're on Earth. Basically make the 4th or 5th movie the reverse of the first movie, with the Na'vi trying to adjust to human bodies and learning all about Earth.

 

[oktay]

New Disney Footage To Be Attached to Re-Releases (Exclusive)

We can exclusively reveal that two big re-releases of Disney movies will include new footage for the upcoming films in their franchise.

featurefirst.net

 

[thribs]

Oh. I thought they meant new footage was coming to the re release of the movie itself.

 

[oktay]

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[thribs]

So she’s a pyromaniac.

 

[Takeru]

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There's nothing deep about Avatar, some of the most overrated, overhyped movies I've ever seen. The plot is so simplistic it could be told in a 30 minutes, the characters are two dimensional and mostly spouting cliche dialog and they don't even look good, the Na'Vi have a creepy uncanny valley look to them and the environments look like video cut scenes and not like a real place.
The movies are also very problematic with James Cameron appropriations various indigenous cultures while also telling a white savior story.

The movies are a complete shit show and I hope the public finally catches on, the third becomes a massive box office failure and that's the end of this idiotic franchise.

 

[thribs]

There's nothing deep about Avatar, some of the most overrated, overhyped movies I've ever seen. The plot is so simplistic it could be told in a 30 minutes, the characters are two dimensional and mostly spouting cliche dialog and they don't even look good, the Na'Vi have a creepy uncanny valley look to them and the environments look like video cut scenes and not like a real place.
The movies are also very problematic with James Cameron appropriations various indigenous cultures while also telling a white savior story.

The movies are a complete shit show and I hope the public finally catches on, the third becomes a massive box office failure and that's the end of this idiotic franchise.

Not a fan I take it?

 

[Set Harth]

The movies are a complete shit show and I hope the public finally catches on, the third becomes a massive box office failure and that's the end of this idiotic franchise.

The official story is that if you didn't see it in 3D you missed out.

 

[Takeru]

Not a fan I take it?

Nope. And I wanted to like Avatar, I didn't care for the 3D hype that was going on back then but I was ready for a good time, I mean the guy who directed Aliens, Terminator 1 and 2, True Lies, Titanic etc., I thought at worst it would be a fun movie so I sat in the theater and saw ... that. Disappointment doesn't even begin to describe it, I thought the movie was bad and then Cameron learned nothing from it and made the same movie again just with more water.

The official story is that if you didn't see it in 3D you missed out.

I saw the first one in 3D, it was a pointless gimmick.

 

[oktay]

The movies are a complete shit show and I hope the public finally catches on, the third becomes a massive box office failure and that's the end of this idiotic franchise.

The public won't understand, because discussions about any movie or TV series on the internet don't reflect the general audience. If they were, none of the four Transformers films or Jurassic World would have broken box office records. I say this as someone who was incredibly bored after comparing the first 90 minutes of Avatar 2 to Free Willy, only to feel relieved when the action kicked in in the last 90 minutes, feeling like water had been thrown in my face.

 

[Mudd]

There's nothing deep about Avatar, some of the most overrated, overhyped movies I've ever seen. The plot is so simplistic it could be told in a 30 minutes, the characters are two dimensional and mostly spouting cliche dialog and they don't even look good, the Na'Vi have a creepy uncanny valley look to them and the environments look like video cut scenes and not like a real place.
The movies are also very problematic with James Cameron appropriations various indigenous cultures while also telling a white savior story.

The movies are a complete shit show and I hope the public finally catches on, the third becomes a massive box office failure and that's the end of this idiotic franchise.

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[JD]

This one is really looking like it's going to be awesome. After the first two it will be interesting to get some Na'vi baddies.

 

[Takeru]

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I explained why I didn't like the movie, you posted a meme making no argument at all. This is a pointless drive by post.

But if I'm so obviously wrong about everything you shouldn't have a problem answering the following questions:

1. Where's the depth in Avatar?
2. How is the story not simplistic? This could have easily been an Outer Limits episode.
3. Why is my personal opinion that the Na'Vi look creepy and the environments like a video game wrong?
4. How is it not a white savior story when the white guy literally comes in, becomes a legendary Na'Vi in no time and is leading them to victory?
5. The criticisms from various indigenous people about appropriating their cultures are real. Why do you dismiss them?

 

[Mudd]

The audience is never wrong about what it likes.

 

[Mage]

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Avatar is eye candy. That's it.

 

[Mudd]

Avatar is eye candy. That's it.

Nope.

 

[JD]

Now that we know that they find a way for Spider to breath in Pandora's environment I have to wonder if they might find a way to do the opposite and we might see Na'Vi on Earth at some point before the series ends.
I know they're not perfect movies by any means, but I really enjoyed the first two movies. Technically and visually they're absolutely spectacular, and I loved all the worldbuilding around Pandora and the Na'vi.