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James Bond franchise--the return of SPECTRE and Blofeld?

Guesses not spoilers - James parents were spies killed by Blofield who obviously had some connection to them.

As long as it's not "James search your feelings...I am your father".

I remember before the movie which became Die Another Day came out, there was talk that the next film would be called Beneath The Ice and Bond would discover the truth about the deaths of his parents - namely they were spies and had been murdered. I don't know if it was fanfic or was a discarded plot. But I was reminded of this storyline when I saw the trailer last night. I particularly like how it seems to pick up from the events of Skyfall.
 
Guesses not spoilers - James parents were spies killed by Blofield who obviously had some connection to them.

As long as it's not "James search your feelings...I am your father".

I remember before the movie which became Die Another Day came out, there was talk that the next film would be called Beneath The Ice and Bond would discover the truth about the deaths of his parents - namely they were spies and had been murdered. I don't know if it was fanfic or was a discarded plot. But I was reminded of this storyline when I saw the trailer last night. I particularly like how it seems to pick up from the events of Skyfall.

Something similar was alluded to in Jeffrey Deaver's Bond novel of a few years ago re his parents.
 
I never read the script myself when it was leaked, but I seem to recall that the biggest outcry was over a Vaderesque reveal that Oberhauser was Bond's brother.

I think that's the bit that was rewritten. Given what's in the trailer, I think they've weaved it more naturally into the film and removed any "James, I am your brother!" moment.

I also don't think he's going actually be his brother--or at least not in such an on-the-nose way. My guess it'll be something like their families were close, they were friends when they were kids, their parents were murdered at the same time, and they wound up in the same orphanage where Bond was plucked by SIS and Oberhauser by Quantum/Spectre

Or Oberhauser's parents became Bond's guardians. Perhaps they were members Quantum/Spectre and even the ones who murdered Bond's parents.

Or some other variation, but that general idea.

I also don't think Oberhauser is Blofeld or even a Blofeld stand-in. I think he's more like the spiritual successor to No/Largo.

With the popularity of credit/post credit teasers and how they've moved the gun barrel to the end of movie, I can actually see them doing some kind of reverse gun barrel teaser Blofeld reveal to set up the next film.

It was also suggested that, when Craig's extension was announced that they were working on 24/25 (at least outlining) together, with an expected short turn around like CR/QoS.

It's safe to assume 25 is going to be Craig's last. I just don't see him extending his contract after that, he's made it pretty clear that five will be enough for him.

I'd also be really surprised if 25 isn't Wilson's last. By the time a would-be 26th film comes out, he'll be pushing 80--especially if they have take another extended break between actors.

Not only that, 25 is a nice round number. So why not go out with a bang? And what better way to do it than with Ernst Stavro Blofeld?

Besides that, I just don't see EON making the same blunder Paramount did with Khan. If Blofeld was in the film, they'd be advertising the shit out of it.

Admittedly, I don't know all that much about the McClory settlement, but I would be really surprised if they were allowed SPECTRE but not Blofeld. So I don't see using Oberhauser as a stand-in as being some kind of legal maneuver.

So I think they're saving him for one last hurrah. Heck, with the current naming convention, they'd probably just call the film Blofeld.

After that, I do see them taking another long break with Babs continuing on with (promoted) Purvis/Wade, a new actor, and another hard reset, perhaps reverting back to more of a Moore/Brosnan style.
 
Guesses not spoilers - James parents were spies killed by Blofield who obviously had some connection to them.

As long as it's not "James search your feelings...I am your father".

I remember before the movie which became Die Another Day came out, there was talk that the next film would be called Beneath The Ice and Bond would discover the truth about the deaths of his parents - namely they were spies and had been murdered. I don't know if it was fanfic or was a discarded plot. .

I remember reading that in the papers at the time. Connery was supposed to play Bond's Father.
 
Amazingly I missed all spoilers from the leaked script. I don't see how Bond can have a secret brother it would make no sense, a family friend who was like a brother would work though.

I'd love it if the next film was called Shatterhand ;)
 
Guesses not spoilers - James parents were spies killed by Blofield who obviously had some connection to them.

As long as it's not "James search your feelings...I am your father".

I remember before the movie which became Die Another Day came out, there was talk that the next film would be called Beneath The Ice and Bond would discover the truth about the deaths of his parents - namely they were spies and had been murdered. I don't know if it was fanfic or was a discarded plot. .

I remember reading that in the papers at the time. Connery was supposed to play Bond's Father.

I couldn't remember if I'd read that about Connery or if I imagined it, which is why I didn't mention it. But if you remember it too, I guess I didn't just imagine it!:)
 
Guesses not spoilers - James parents were spies killed by Blofield who obviously had some connection to them.

As long as it's not "James search your feelings...I am your father".

I remember before the movie which became Die Another Day came out, there was talk that the next film would be called Beneath The Ice and Bond would discover the truth about the deaths of his parents - namely they were spies and had been murdered. I don't know if it was fanfic or was a discarded plot. But I was reminded of this storyline when I saw the trailer last night. I particularly like how it seems to pick up from the events of Skyfall.

I was very active in the Bond community back then when this storyline surfaced.

From what I can remember back then, it was all revealed to be bogus fan fiction by a guy who posted on the Bond 20 website's message boards.
 
I love that they're directly tying the Quantum and Skyfall storylines into SPECTRE and immediately following on the footsteps of the last film.
It's looking like all the threads are being pulled together in this one. Casino to Spectre all as one story arc.

It's therefore also looking like Craig's done with Bond...
 
Waltz is perfect for the not-Blofeld but totally gonna be Blofeld role. Oberhauser's name is on Bond's transfer of guardianship papers, but I'm wondering if he's not secretly Bond's older brother(?) whose face is burned out in the picture:

I hope not. Riffing on Goldmember would be a horrible miscalculation.

There's clearly some kind of connection between them. Oberhauser's signature (whether it's him personally or his adoptive(?) father's whose name he took) is on the temporary guardianship papers for Bond, he refers to him as the more familiar "James" rather than Mr. Bond the first time they meet, and the face of the other person the elder Bond is holding who has a build/familiarity of an older brother is burned out of the picture (which foreshadows Oberhauser's cloaked in darkness appearance in the SPECTRE meeting), implying it's going to be someone who will be revealed in the film.

I know it's a cliche for Bond villains to wine and dine Bond before trying to kill him, but it does seem odd that Oberhauser would invite James into the meeting of SPECTRE, unless he was trying to use their connection to possibly recruit him, and has some qualms about killing him outright.

It just seems to fit the overall theme about Bond have buried secrets that he repressed or couldn't discuss with others he didn't trust.
 
Not necessarily but I'd be amazed if he did more than one more after Spectre
He's already signed for one more after this right?

I was very active in the Bond community back then when this storyline surfaced.

From what I can remember back then, it was all revealed to be bogus fan fiction by a guy who posted on the Bond 20 website's message boards.
Was his name John Logan?
 
Funny thing is, the idea of Bond having a sibling is not exactly new-the character of James Bond Jr, as a nephew of Bond was the son of Bond's sister or brother in the 90's animated franchise.


It also reminds me a bit of the rumors surrounding Indiana Jones IV, that Indy had some sort of secret brother who would be the villain, possibly played by Mel Gibson (Indiana does have a sister who died, as the TV series reveals)
 
In my experience, Bond rumors are frequently the most inaccurate of the major franchises I follow. Star Trek and Star Wars have their share of wild rumors, but Bond rumors are usually WAY off. I've yet to see a Bond rumor come to fruition.
 
I hope Quantum comes back in the next movie, to tie into the first two Craig Bond films. Skyfall felt like kind of an outlier since it didn't address any of the unanswered stuff from Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace.

I have enjoyed the Craig movies. But in my opinion, the Bond movie franchise went downhill after "From Russia With Love." :vulcan:

Kor
 
Same thing happened with Goldfinger, the third film in the series. Apart from Felix Leiter and Bond's British supporting characters, it's the only 60's/early 70s Bond film not to have SPECTRE as part of the plot (Although it's unclear if SPECTRE are the bad guys in Diamonds Are Forever although Blofeld is in charge).


With Mr. White however in the trailer it looks like this will continue the Quantum storyline and link it with SPECTRE in some way, as well as continue the Bond's past storyline from Skyfall.
 
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