Re: The Hobbit OFFICIALLY greenlit, Jackson to direct and in 3D
^ On that we're agreed! (the book learnin' bit!)
^ On that we're agreed! (the book learnin' bit!)
It's official: Jackson to direct the Hobbit
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Re: The Hobbit OFFICIALLY greenlit, Jackson to direct and in 3D
He took the women that were already existing in LotR and gave them a little more screentime. That's all he did.
Re: The Hobbit OFFICIALLY greenlit, Jackson to direct and in 3D
I don't think Arwen was more than mentioned (for her tokens) apart from appearing once at Rivendell.
Interestingly he left out one woman who did appear for more than a nanosecond - Goldberry - because he decided to leave out Tom Bombadil.
I don't think Arwen was more than mentioned (for her tokens) apart from appearing once at Rivendell.
Interestingly he left out one woman who did appear for more than a nanosecond - Goldberry - because he decided to leave out Tom Bombadil.
Re: The Hobbit OFFICIALLY greenlit, Jackson to direct and in 3D
Arwen has a lot more backstory that's just not part of the prose. And Bombadil was cut for good reasons.
Arwen has a lot more backstory that's just not part of the prose. And Bombadil was cut for good reasons.
Re: The Hobbit OFFICIALLY greenlit, Jackson to direct and in 3D
Nobody forces you to watch it.
Vote with your money, honey!
Merely presenting the facts about what Jackson did.
Nobody forces you to watch it.
Vote with your money, honey!
Re: The Hobbit OFFICIALLY greenlit, Jackson to direct and in 3D
PJ will do for The Hobbit what he did for LOTR: Pull as much from archived material as possible to add in strong female characters. But the fact is, there's much less of that material available for The Hobbit films as compared to the LOTR films. The result will be a much more male-dominated pair of films than even the original Rings trilogy. Which, of course, leaves the films open to legitimate criticism. No way around it, without completely rewriting the story -- which, for better or worse, would be much more heavily criticized.
PJ will do for The Hobbit what he did for LOTR: Pull as much from archived material as possible to add in strong female characters. But the fact is, there's much less of that material available for The Hobbit films as compared to the LOTR films. The result will be a much more male-dominated pair of films than even the original Rings trilogy. Which, of course, leaves the films open to legitimate criticism. No way around it, without completely rewriting the story -- which, for better or worse, would be much more heavily criticized.
Re: The Hobbit OFFICIALLY greenlit, Jackson to direct and in 3D
Irony, thy name is JarodRussell.
Yes. True in every case. None of those technologies add anything to the story, and none of them are needed to make a good movie.
I have a wide collection of movies that are in black and white, mono, and standard screen. All of them are superior to most of the colour, widescreen, stereo-sound films being made nowadays.
You know what does make a good movie? The human element. Good writing, good acting, and good direction.
That's it. That's all. If you have those three things, you can make a perfectly good movie without any bells and whistles at all. And if you don't have those three things, then your movie is going to suck ass, no matter how many technological gimmicks you employ.
And that is my biggest objection to 3-D at present: in too many cases, it's just so much turd-polishing. I'm being asked to pay a premium for something that, so far, has not improved my movie-going experience at all. Because no matter how hard you polish it, a piece of shit is still a piece of shit.
From what I've seen, so far, 3-D is no different from Cinerama or Sensurround. Maybe, in the future, it will become something more than that. This is, after all, the third time they've tried it. Maybe the third time really is the charm.
But frankly, I am just not willing to subsidize the development of a technology that is being used as a substitute for the essentials of good movie-making.
Irony, thy name is JarodRussell.
Yes. True in every case. None of those technologies add anything to the story, and none of them are needed to make a good movie.
I have a wide collection of movies that are in black and white, mono, and standard screen. All of them are superior to most of the colour, widescreen, stereo-sound films being made nowadays.
You know what does make a good movie? The human element. Good writing, good acting, and good direction.
That's it. That's all. If you have those three things, you can make a perfectly good movie without any bells and whistles at all. And if you don't have those three things, then your movie is going to suck ass, no matter how many technological gimmicks you employ.
And that is my biggest objection to 3-D at present: in too many cases, it's just so much turd-polishing. I'm being asked to pay a premium for something that, so far, has not improved my movie-going experience at all. Because no matter how hard you polish it, a piece of shit is still a piece of shit.
From what I've seen, so far, 3-D is no different from Cinerama or Sensurround. Maybe, in the future, it will become something more than that. This is, after all, the third time they've tried it. Maybe the third time really is the charm.
But frankly, I am just not willing to subsidize the development of a technology that is being used as a substitute for the essentials of good movie-making.
Sir Peter Jackson buys THIRTY RED EPIC CAMERAS to shoot The Hobbit!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/28/peter-jackson-nabs-thirty-red-epic-cameras-to-film-the-hobbit-t/
This is freakin' amazing. RED cameras are awesome but to grab 30 in one hit - and using the 5K Epic - is one sizeable investment!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/28/peter-jackson-nabs-thirty-red-epic-cameras-to-film-the-hobbit-t/
This is freakin' amazing. RED cameras are awesome but to grab 30 in one hit - and using the 5K Epic - is one sizeable investment!
Re: Sir Peter Jackson buys THIRTY RED EPIC CAMERAS to shoot The Hobbit
I take it tha these cameras are... Good?
Moreover, this is an indication that there will be considerable multi-unit shooting for the movie. Expecting that a couple of these will be lost along the way, that still means they'll have a lot of leeway for shooting in multiple locations without having to ship cameras around all the time. And of course, I'm sure Jackson will assign them to other movies when Hobbit has wrapped, or possibly even during production - so the $1.5M+ he's spending on these things are going to pay forward for some time. Also, 3-D extras on the inevitable ultimate Blu-Ray release would be interesting indeed...
Mark
I take it tha these cameras are... Good?
Moreover, this is an indication that there will be considerable multi-unit shooting for the movie. Expecting that a couple of these will be lost along the way, that still means they'll have a lot of leeway for shooting in multiple locations without having to ship cameras around all the time. And of course, I'm sure Jackson will assign them to other movies when Hobbit has wrapped, or possibly even during production - so the $1.5M+ he's spending on these things are going to pay forward for some time. Also, 3-D extras on the inevitable ultimate Blu-Ray release would be interesting indeed...
Mark
Re: Sir Peter Jackson buys THIRTY RED EPIC CAMERAS to shoot The Hobbit
They're great. I've used the RED One camera only once, but the Epics are supposed to be better. Compare this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._RED_CAMERA.svg/2000px-28k_RED_CAMERA.svg.png
Orange is standard def NTSC (720x480 lines of resolution)
Turquoise is HD (1920x1080 lines of resolution)
Purple is RED Epic S35 (5120x2700 lines of resolution)
They're great. I've used the RED One camera only once, but the Epics are supposed to be better. Compare this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._RED_CAMERA.svg/2000px-28k_RED_CAMERA.svg.png
Orange is standard def NTSC (720x480 lines of resolution)
Turquoise is HD (1920x1080 lines of resolution)
Purple is RED Epic S35 (5120x2700 lines of resolution)
Which crazy lunatic shoots in 28000 x 9334?
I don't think so. That's like half a gigabyte per frame. Nobody does that. Nobody could even do that, I think.
Re: Sir Peter Jackson buys THIRTY RED EPIC CAMERAS to shoot The Hobbit
English, Candlelight.
Speak English!!!
English, Candlelight.
Speak English!!!
Kinda reminds me of the 1982 novelization of TWoK when the Genesis scientists are looking at shoring up their lab because Carol Marcus thinks Admiral Kirk is coming to take their research away from them. Some mention is made to the massive storage capactiy of their computers and it's like 10 meg or something(cannot remember the exact amount but it's something exponentially smaller than what we have today).
I have a stick that doubles as a key chain that almost equals that and I have a separate drive sitting next to my keyboard here that is 1.5 tb.
Life goes on, things evolve.
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