It's ''fans'' like this, that make trekkie's LOOK bad!

[Neumann]

Canon Violation on all of you! ;-) !

 

[David cgc]

...and the fact that Spock doesn't seem to remember how to timetravel using the slingshot maneuver...

If you use a given time-travel method to leave your normal time, you have to use the same one to get back, or else the universe breaks. No, it's never been explicitly stated, but it seems to be the working assumption of all the writers. Otherwise, why would Geordi have gone to the trouble to recreate the Borg's time-tunnel in "First Contact" instead of just heading 'round the sun?

So Spock is trapped in the past unless he can make a red-matter portal.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

In 2405 Montgomery Scott was given the Daystrom institutes highest honour when he demonstrated how transwarp beaming can be performed up to several light-years with ease by remodulating the subspace emitters.

Spock came from the year 2387. You just created an inconsistency/plot hole.

I thought the countdown comics where set in the 25th century, whats the source of that 2387 date? :P

The "Countdown" comics take place on Stardate 64XXX, which would mean eight years after Nemesis (and 23 years after TNG's first season) if we go by the "1000 stardate units = 1 year" formula. Besides, Spock's future ship states that it is from the year (or "stardate") 2387 in the movie.

 

[Overgeeked]

The "Countdown" comics take place on Stardate 64XXX, which would mean eight years after Nemesis (and 23 years after TNG's first season) if we go by the "1000 stardate units = 1 year" formula. Besides, Spock's future ship states that it is from the year (or "stardate") 2387 in the movie.

The Jellyfish tells Spock that it was commissioned in 2387. It could have come from any time after that. It isn't stated on screen when Nero and Old Spock time traveled from. I know that Countdown explains some of this away, but unless it's on screen it's out.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

If you use a given time-travel method to leave your normal time, you have to use the same one to get back, or else the universe breaks. No, it's never been explicitly stated, but it seems to be the working assumption of all the writers. Otherwise, why would Geordi have gone to the trouble to recreate the Borg's time-tunnel in "First Contact" instead of just heading 'round the sun?

I think it's really just so that you don't have to set up time travel for the audience twice in the same story.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

The "Countdown" comics take place on Stardate 64XXX, which would mean eight years after Nemesis (and 23 years after TNG's first season) if we go by the "1000 stardate units = 1 year" formula. Besides, Spock's future ship states that it is from the year (or "stardate") 2387 in the movie.

The Jellyfish tells Spock that it was commissioned in 2387. It could have come from any time after that. It isn't stated on screen when Nero and Old Spock time traveled from. I know that Countdown explains some of this away, but unless it's on screen it's out.

Not exactly... at "stardate" 2258, Spock Prime also tells Kirk that he's 129 years from the future.

2258 + 129 = 2387.

 

[Overgeeked]

Not exactly... at "stardate" 2258, Spock Prime also tells Kirk that he's 129 years from the future.

2258 + 129 = 2387.

You're right. I forgot about that part.

 

[Flamegrape]

TREKBBS: HOME OF THE NON-INSANE TREK FANS!

lol

 

[Kirk1980]

Urbandk....where's the home for the insane Trek fans? I need to know so I can block that site on my computer.

 

[Gepard]

Urbandk....where's the home for the insane Trek fans?

StarDestroyer.net.

 

[sscape]

He shouldn't quit his day job. If he has one.

He has one. Cleaning his room/mom's basement and taking out the trash. "Don't forget the recyclables!"- mom in Galaxy Quest

Q: What is your location and profession?
A: I studied electrical engineering and then got an assignment as a research assistant at the Institute for Semiconductor Electronics, University of Siegen, Germany, for five years. After successfully defending my Ph.D. thesis I am now working as a team leader in analog integrated circuit design in Düsseldorf.

Goodness! I must be tired! I read that as "successfully defeated my Ph.D. advisors." Hope you had an easier time of it.

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

Ex Astris Scientia is a great and useful site which has been around for many years and I hope it will continue to be

They had some pretty cool early ships of the Federation. Guess you don't get that level of detail without a release valve somewhere else on the same site...

 

[Crazy Eddie]

...and the fact that Spock doesn't seem to remember how to timetravel using the slingshot maneuver...

If you use a given time-travel method to leave your normal time, you have to use the same one to get back, or else the universe breaks. No, it's never been explicitly stated, but it seems to be the working assumption of all the writers. Otherwise, why would Geordi have gone to the trouble to recreate the Borg's time-tunnel in "First Contact" instead of just heading 'round the sun?

So Spock is trapped in the past unless he can make a red-matter portal.

Actually, I was referring to his inability to put the section move on the hypernova. If you missed the deadline to stop the explosion, why don't you just pick a random star, slingshot around it and go back before the deadline in the first place? I mean, it was good enough to save Earth, why isn't it enough to save Romulus?