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Isn't it dumb to only have 1 Doctor on Voyager and NX-01 Enterprise?

No information on that, the suggestion that none of the red or gold-shirts on Voyager had attend the course would suggest that it's separate, voluntary and rarely attended, but then we have the issue that if that's the case, then why did Worf of all people do the course?

The most we can say for definate is that it is isn't compulsary, however I imagine having the course would increase your options as far as assignments go and IMO most of the "security and services" personnel, and at least some of the engineers and tactical/command officers are "encouraged" to take the course.
Perhaps it was a more advanced class for security. Police officers are trained in emergency childbirth, perhaps it's a similar thing
 
In the army, everyone takes first aid, and more than once, even officers do. It's a basic skill. There are optional, slightly more advance certifications that a number of people need to take every so often, currently called "CLS" which is supposed to be something between standard First Aid and a full medic.

There really isn't a need for a birthing class in the military, but I wouldn't be surprised if many EMT's have taken such a course.

Edit: *civilian EMT's
 
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I suspect that childbirth (and child first aid) would be a required course for security personel to get assigned to a ship with families. There's no reason it couldn't be a half-day course in a holodeck when you first join. I'm surprised that EMTs don't do that basic course as standard too, if you believe soap operas, taxi drivers should have it as part of the licensing requirements. Most journalists I know have done some fairly advanced, but specific, first aid -- dealing with gunshot wounds, bomb blasts, collapsed lungs, that sort of stuff, a few days of a refresher every few years. Child birth isn't one of those.

Obviously Paris was chosen from dramatic reasons to train with the doctor as a 'field medic' - presumably more advanced first aid skills than normal away team training, but they really should have been training some of the blue-shirts to be full-blown doctors.
 
I suspect that childbirth (and child first aid) would be a required course for security personel to get assigned to a ship with families. There's no reason it couldn't be a half-day course in a holodeck when you first join.

With tri-annual refreshers IMO, but yes.

Obviously Paris was chosen from dramatic reasons to train with the doctor as a 'field medic' - presumably more advanced first aid skills than normal away team training, but they really should have been training some of the blue-shirts to be full-blown doctors.[/QUOTE]

Basically, "Main Characters Do Everything". I'm not sure about doctor, that would take too long, but they should have trained additional blue-shirt/gold-shirt medics and nurses at least.
 
No information on that, the suggestion that none of the red or gold-shirts on Voyager had attend the course would suggest that it's separate, voluntary and rarely attended, but then we have the issue that if that's the case, then why did Worf of all people do the course?

The most we can say for definate is that it is isn't compulsary, however I imagine having the course would increase your options as far as assignments go and IMO most of the "security and services" personnel, and at least some of the engineers and tactical/command officers are "encouraged" to take the course.
Per Distaster (TNG) the Emergency Medical Course attended by Worf at the Academy (likely available to most Command and/or Security cadets) includes emergency childbirth which as a 17-year veteran first aider I can tell you is not covered on a 'basic first aid' course but is technican or even EMT-level training.
Per Distaster (TNG) the Emergency Medical Course attended by Worf at the Academy (likely available to most Command and/or Security cadets) includes emergency childbirth which as a 17-year veteran first aider I can tell you is not covered on a 'basic first aid' course but is technican or even EMT-level training.
Worf would take extra courses so he could be better at he job and that would mark him as an officer that would do what is needed and beven able to do more than others on an assignment if things go wrong.
 
What about dentistry? Has there ever been a scene with someone getting dental work?

I imagine that would take up SOME of the EMH's time with 150 appointments every 6 months. Unless everyone just does their own using sonic cleaners...?
 
Yeah. Phlox told T'Pol she had a cavity, and she insisted that was impossible since her teeth were "properly" coated with some futuristic treatment many years ago. I guess it's not supposed to wear off or last a lot longer than it did. Still, the doctor insisted and told her it would take a few seconds to correct, and bingo bingo bongo and erving, it was done. And that was 200 years before Voyager and the EMH.

I saw the other day a treatment using some mercury compound, I think, or silver compound? I forget. But it was almost as fast. One doesn't have to drill out the cavity - the solution bonds to it, kills it, fills the area. It's quick and painless and cheap, and done more and more in less developed countries. The downside? The treated areas are quite dark, maybe even black, so cosmetically it looks pretty bad - but still better than a mouthful of missing teeth, abscesses, cavities, and the ever present smell of decay and rot coming from your mouth.

I'm sorry. I just meant to say, Yeah, they did - on Enterprise, but I don't recall it happening on any other Trek series. But if it were that quick during the time of Enterprise, I can only imagine the treatments are better later on, more durable or more permanent, quicker, or maybe even they have home/quarters self-treatments that will do it with an oral rinse and give you the right color match, to boot.
 
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Toothpaste still existed in 2260s, and there were still Dental Hygenists in the 24th century, and while some people in the 2150s used sonic toothbrushes, others in the 2250s used a more old fashioned way.
 
I also recall captain Merik (or one of his crew) named a toothpaste Mars Toothpaste in Bread and Circuses, though the was doubtlessly using that planet's toothpaste technology and they just named it. And Worf sharpened his teeth with a device he got from a Ferengi estate (the Ferengi also sharpen their teeth.) Hoshi had a sonic toothbrush. Off the top of my head, I can't recall other Federation dental practices, though I gotta say, judging from the self destruct sequence in Let That Be Their Last Battlefield, it can't have been all that good. :lol:
 
I think it's a practical certainty the EMH would have that training. They would have less opportunity to use it, but it would be there.
 
Yeah. Phlox told T'Pol she had a cavity, and she insisted that was impossible since her teeth were "properly" coated with some futuristic treatment many years ago. I guess it's not supposed to wear off or last a lot longer than it did. Still, the doctor insisted and told her it would take a few seconds to correct, and bingo bingo bongo and erving, it was done. And that was 200 years before Voyager and the EMH.

I saw the other day a treatment using some mercury compound, I think, or silver compound? I forget. But it was almost as fast. One doesn't have to drill out the cavity - the solution bonds to it, kills it, fills the area. It's quick and painless and cheap, and done more and more in less developed countries. The downside? The treated areas are quite dark, maybe even black, so cosmetically it looks pretty bad - but still better than a mouthful of missing teeth, abscesses, cavities, and the ever present smell of decay and rot coming from your mouth.

I'm sorry. I just meant to say, Yeah, they did - on Enterprise, but I don't recall it happening on any other Trek series. But if it were that quick during the time of Enterprise, I can only imagine the treatments are better later on, more durable or more permanent, quicker, or maybe even they have home/quarters self-treatments that will do it with an oral rinse and give you the right color match, to boot.

Aw, I've only seen a few episodes of Enterprise so I'm pretty sure I didn't see that one! Thanks for the info!
 
Just imagine the advantages an EMH would enjoy in dentistry - being able to fit all the required (holographic) tooling inside a closed mouth with ease!

I gather this would also be one of the easiest areas of surgery to automate ITRW. Every home could have a machine wherein the patient sits down and allows a smaller-than-soapbar component to enter his mouth where it scans the teeth, drills and fills, coats and polishes as needed. There'd be very few ways for the machine to do damage, and very little harm from doing damage and then undoing it.

Just don't ask the thing to do a tonsillectomy on an Andorian..

Timo Saloniemi
 
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