Is this the true face of the USA?
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Frankly I found the article to be quite hypocritical. He basically generalised an entire group of people while throwing in his bigoted cheap shots eg: stepford wives.It's not nice to judge an entire sector of the population based on anecdotes and prejudice.
I think I read that on this BBS.
Pop into any discussion group dominated by the far left and you will also be met with the same open hostility and closed minds that he gripes about here. There is a reason why more and more people in America are leaving the two major parties and voting participation is so low. They have both become nothing more than evil entities who spoon feed hateful propaganda to their willing followers. Different points of view aren't tolerated and like good little fascists they work to silence them from existence.
So why hasn't there been a rise of a viable third party?
I can say the same thing for my country as we are both mired by a two party system which I find something that should have been consigned to the bin of history.
I can say the same thing for my country as we are both mired by a two party system which I find something that should have been consigned to the bin of history.
That must be the far, far left because that has not been my experience or something I would participate in.
Money, money and money.
In order to get your message out to the masses(T.V, Radio, Mailers etc.) you need to either have wealthy friends or a wealthy wallet. Even starting off local in a major city requires big connections with the right people.Those networks are very entrenched and only support one of the two sides.So it is nearly impossible to come from the outside and change that.
I just wish it would happen though, if only once someone tries to pull it off. Yeah they've have to have shitloads of money and connections, that's a given. But it would make the fight an interesting one.
For some people, murder is a bridge too far
So using that argument the very same people who are opposed to abortions should oppose the death penalty as well, as there is the chance of executing an innocent person. Yet they often aren't in the group that oppose the death penalty.
People tend to stick to what they know, and whilst the UK has two main parties on a national level, at a local level the third party might be the main party as the battle isn't always between the Conservatives and Labour sometimes for example it's between Labour and the Lib Dems.
That is probably one of the most anti-science comments. Virtually all eggs that get fertilizied fail within ten days. Would it mean Heaven is full of folks whose existence was not ever known to their parents, or even made any impact on the lives of their parents who thought it was just a period. That would mean God gave most souls meaningless lives, meant to live out their existence on Earth as a clump of cells for few days, before welcoming them through the pearly gates...For some people, murder is a bridge too far
Great book I would highly recommend to anybody who's interested in the American Christian Right. Hedges from basically the inside explains how in reality it's just a straight up Fascist movement with a thinly veiled cloak of religion to hide their true beliefs and motives.
I say this as basically a Left-Com (Far-left).
The Far-left honestly has extreme problem with extremely toxic identity politics, oppression olympics and basically islamophilia. Seriously trying to actually have discussions in far-left spaces is often like walking a minefield because people want offended by pretty much everything. Identity Politics on the left, honestly is mostly actually driven by vindictive bullying. I can tell you right now that most leftists couldn't give one crap about Cultural Appropriation and just see it as an excuse to bully others while being morally righteous about it.
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Great article about it from an amazing leftist thinker (author behind Capitalist Realism). Was bullied to suicide by the toxic "vampire" leftists he talked about exactly in this piece.
Don't get me started on the Left's bizarre love in relationship with Islamism to the point that leftist groups will slander and abuse Communist and Socialist Arabs, Persians, who campaign against Islamic oppression. (Look what happened to Maryam Namazie).
The Liberal "Center-left" has it's own raft of issues. Identity Politics again raises it's head, but it's often used as a way to shut down discussion of class and economic leftism. The cult like atmosphere around #Resistance and the tedious circlejerk over the Trump-Russia investigation (Spoiler: Nothing will happen, it's a repeat of Plamegate). The way liberals are easily exploited by neoliberal (Economic) and neoconservative (Foreign Policy) interests and will use that extremely hilariously bad "Golden middle fallacy" to justify everything. The circlejerk over institutions and compromise. (As a Public Servant this is always amusing to me)
The Socialist Party of America. It was America's legitimate third party that held thousands of political offices from city councils to Senators. Go read what happened to them. (TL;DR: Massive violent state-repression and demonization, Democrats and Republicans openly joined hands and ran unity candidates against SPA Politicans, SPA politicans were thrown in prison on extremely flimsy charges).
Eugene Debs will in my mind be one of the greatest American political minds.
The only recent exception would have been Bernie Sanders. While he was running as a Democrat, he was really more like a 3rd party candidate. If the DNC hadn't been biased to support Hillary, he actually might have had a chance. But aside from that circumstance, yes -- historically it has been nearly impossible for a 3rd party candidate to make much headway. Social media is changing that, though. Look at Trump's budget compared to Clinton's. He spent far less and look at how close he came in the popular vote. Sanders had a very small budget and comparatively he was making amazing traction. I think properly leveraged, one can run more effectively on less money... but yeah, in the end -- the final stretch of the campaign can become significantly costly.
I think there needs to be some kind of legislation against smear campaigns using false allegations. So much money is wasted with candidates having to combat lies called against them. It's a HUGE waste.
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Trump got a huge leg up thanks to the novelty of a presidential candidate who behaved like a reality TV star being spread by the mainstream media. He was fun to focus on, and every time the news did so, more people watched the train wreck. What they were too shortsighted to see, or too greedy to care (probably both) is that the train wreck would make it all the way to the station. Now we're all riding this:
And the news pretended like they had no idea how it happened.
Bernie might have been "like" a third party candidate, but he wasn't one. Had he ran on a third party ticket, he might have denied Hillary the popular vote win as well.
And while we're on the subject of Bernie, you hear all the time about the polls showing him beating trump in the general had he been the nominee. Well, that just totally ignores what would have happened in the campaign once the full force of the GOP propaganda machine took its guns off of Hillary and trained them on him. By the time they were done, people would have thought he was Joe Stalin. Heck, they might have even "found" an old CPUSA membership card for him. It's not like the Russians don't know where there's a bunch of blank ones.
And while we're on the subject of Bernie, you hear all the time about the polls showing him beating trump in the general had he been the nominee. Well, that just totally ignores what would have happened in the campaign once the full force of the GOP propaganda machine took its guns off of Hillary and trained them on him. By the time they were done, people would have thought he was Joe Stalin. Heck, they might have even "found" an old CPUSA membership card for him. It's not like the Russians don't know where there's a bunch of blank ones.
Rawstory is a site reported as being left wing and has a mixed accuracy rating, likely due in part to some content being opinion pieces or factual pieces loaded with adjectives to massage you into believing the belief they prefer. Similar veracity checking sites don't disagree. Like how Fox is reported as being right wing bias and also has a variable accuracy rating.
And, of course, the author also references Alternet (equally left-wing bias with mixed accuracy).
Many resources exist to allow a reader to gauge their own beliefs and conclusions. One such resource to try to weigh content might be mediabiasfactcheck.com.
As for the article itself, it feels more a straw argument than any sort of "Look at me, I'm Bart Simpson jumping up and down to distract you" piece, though it contains some points that are easier to debunk or confirm than others.
The author is probably writing the truth as perceived, or is simply paid to write it. But what might be more interesting here, the author or the umbrella said writer is under along with all the other writers from that group?
That and people should be fatigued of all the race-baiting and profiling, regardless of which race is being discussed. Are the people being discussed part of bigger things we all are part of, like a nation? Or species, but without straying too far anyone who's half-awake will have noticed not all nations are playing the same Kumbaya song and that is not unfair consideration.
And, of course, the author also references Alternet (equally left-wing bias with mixed accuracy).
Many resources exist to allow a reader to gauge their own beliefs and conclusions. One such resource to try to weigh content might be mediabiasfactcheck.com.
As for the article itself, it feels more a straw argument than any sort of "Look at me, I'm Bart Simpson jumping up and down to distract you" piece, though it contains some points that are easier to debunk or confirm than others.
The author is probably writing the truth as perceived, or is simply paid to write it. But what might be more interesting here, the author or the umbrella said writer is under along with all the other writers from that group?
That and people should be fatigued of all the race-baiting and profiling, regardless of which race is being discussed. Are the people being discussed part of bigger things we all are part of, like a nation? Or species, but without straying too far anyone who's half-awake will have noticed not all nations are playing the same Kumbaya song and that is not unfair consideration.
So nobody knows that big big secret of what is known as "write-in vote"? It's simpler to assume that most people either stayed home or, as the old saying goes, "voted for the lesser of two evils"...
What's more interesting is how many blue states won by near-impressively narrow margins, in one case narrower than the swing states that voted Trump that had Candidate Stein demanding recounts. (Yet only for the Trump-won states instead of any state, regardless of red or blue, that had <3% victory...) Combine that with how many didn't bother to vote (which outgoing politicians were quick to blame since they likely wouldn't have voted for the outgoing politicians' preferred choices regardless) and it's not hard to figure out there are some big issues going on.
Jesus also lived in a different time and place. The philosophy is not wrong, but I would still wager there are a few more underlying conditions that don't make such a quick and nimble parallel. Unfortunately. But people who are Christian or seen as Christian are being killed because they don't obey the preferred religion. That's part of the set of underlying conditions. Made more unfortunate since most Mulsims are said to be agreeable to Jesus' philosophy and believe he was one of the greatest Messengers of God to humankind. So if today's Muslims are killing Christians, there's clearly far more going on - on top of everything else going on.
Doesn't make Jesus' philosophy any less true as a result. The real question might be, when do things start to improve?
As for homosexuals, Jesus Himself did refer specifically to marriage as being a union of man and woman (Oh noes, bad bad unions!). But at least Jesus never said homosexuality was the curse of the goddess... If we're going to take religion solely as how it was written by its creators as opposed to being correctly augmented upon, redefined, or even replaced over time, since Jesus' name was used to justify slavery in the New Testament - something that has been deemed abhorrent and sinful only more than eighteen centuries later, based on other issues Jesus told of, and yet Jesus Himself never exactly spoke of the slavery issue - isn't that fascinating? As I said, there's a lot more going on... and not because the Holy Land was occupied by a foreign power at the time...
And that's just about religion and no other factors!
As an european, it is very clear that Trump's election has clinched something in the USA. There is not a discussion where someone is talking about people's color or this "SJW" thing which is very endemic to North America.
It feels that the USA are divided as ever.
It feels that the USA are divided as ever.
I think you may be laboring under the misapprehension that the USA has a single face. Or indeed that it doesn't occasionally bypass the face altogether when speaking to others.
Lack of a viable centrist candidate? I hear people saying that the two main parties go too far, and that's why people are deserting them. Someone on the far left or the far right running as a independent (imo) isn't what the people leaving the main parties want.
They want a alternative, not more of the same with a different label.
Both far left. Bernie is a progressive democrat, even if re-labeled. The Socialist party platform (credit for honesty) spelled out their intention to move the country away from the center in a leftward direction.
But the Democratic party already has that covered.
Part of the support for Trump (I feel) was the old saying of "throw the bums out." Even though he was running for the Republican ticket, he wasn't part of the Right's (or the Left's) political machine. He only got the half hearted support of the Republican party leadership when he was their only option to stop Clinton.
Trump (among other things) was the "un-politician."
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