Spoilers Is there a new Anakin slave boy?

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  1. DigificWriter

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    Which already existed long before Rey did.

    Also, can people please stop with the condescending dismissal of The Last Jedi as "not Star Wars" for the sake of credibility?
     
  2. CorporalCaptain

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    Assuming it had any truth to it, what Kylo Ren said about Rey's parents might have been only a half-truth. Moreover, even assuming that Rey's parents were despicable drunks who sold and/or abandoned their daughter, that doesn't mean that they weren't Force-sensitive.

    Yeah, I think that the kid who moved the broom with the Force is going to be among those inspired by the stories of Luke and the Rebellion. I don't believe that we are supposed to think that he will be the next Anakin-type character, though, either with or without ending up falling to the dark side.
     
  3. Guy Gardener

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    Breeding jedi for pedigree like Horses, would lead to super jedi who can throw moons at each other.

    I like to think that Jedi Celibacy is to stop that, to keep the Jedi at a three on the scale of godliness, which may be why Sith are more powerful and rate out at a 6 or higher.

    Others believe that the Jedi ban love, not sex, so they can bang their hearts out, as long as their hearts are indifferent to the banging.
     
  4. psCargile

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    And yet Anakin was fatherless, and only the Skywalker family is shown (movies only) to have familial force strength, though Leia not so much.
     
  5. Jedi_Master

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    The slave's innate ability to use the Force played along nicely with the overall theme: Hope.
    Even though the last formally trained Jedi had either dissipated, or turned (perhaps) to evil, there were people everywhere who could embody the ideals once held exclusively by the Jedi. Which is why Yoda ghost destroyed the sacred tree... it was time for the Jedi to move past a location and embrace a thought process.
     
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    ^ "There is nothing here which she does not already possess." - Yoda

    But Yoda also likely knew that she had already stolen the books and hid them in the Falcon. ;)
     
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  7. Jedi_Master

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    I love OT Yoda, which is exactly what we got in TLJ.
    His discussion of what it means to teach and mentor was spot on, and appropriately succinct.
     
  8. UssGlenn

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    I'm sure Rey remembers her parents names and what they look like. She was in denial about why they left her on Jakku. Believing that they were good people who left her there for a noble reason, and thus would return, kept her from loosing all hope. For all we know they may have told her they were coming back to make leaving easier.
     
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    Ep IX: A Renewed Hope

    (not to be confused with Ep VII: A Rebooted New Hope). :)
     
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  10. Jedi_Master

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    Episode XI: Hoping For More Money
     
  11. Emh

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    Followed by Episode XII: So very, very tired.

    Oh, wait. Wrong franchise.
     
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  13. Caretaker

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    The Force finds a way.
     
  14. JD

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    I've never come across anything to indicate that. Force use is an ability that a limited number of people had, but it isn't just connected to certain bloodlines, many of the Jedi and Sith come from families with no history of Force users.
    I just took the ending with the kid to just mean that even if the Jedi Order was gone, there were still Force users out there, and the potential for Rey to start something new.
    Hmm, with both the organized Dark Siders and Light Siders down just a handful of people, I wonder if perhaps we could see a sort of arms race between the two groups, with them each going out to try to track down as many potential new members as usual.
     
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  15. EnsignRicky

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    Not everybody can use the Force. Your either born with the ability or your not. It's all Muggles and Mutants.
     
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  16. Jax

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    I wonder if there going with some idea like the Jedi & Sith and then later mainly the Jedi as their numbers swelled due to having no Sith army in equal size to fight for over 2000 years were basically hoarding/draining (can't think of a better word) the force (even if they didn't know it). The force was not meant to be something only a fraction of people can use but a majority (if not everyone in some way no matter how small). The balance prophecy meant the Jedi & Sith both had to go and this allowed the Force to open up to more people who before never would of had it or realised their connection to it...

    It suits the title of The Force Awakens IMO. I know it's a little too Ori SG-1 ish but something along those lines.

    I'm sure someone else could put it in a better way ;)

    I just got the impression the ending of the movie meant the Force was becoming more expansive and inclusive.
     
  17. Wouter

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    Indeed. There are probably way less people who get the ability (purely by birth!) to use the force than there are people born in families who are not "nobodies", depending on how strictly one would define "nobodies".

    And the people who aren't born with the ability simply cannot use the force, ever. So the big deal about this supposed "democratisation" of the force seems offbase to me.
     
  18. Set Harth

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    Just the Sith, which is why the destruction of the Sith was linked to balance in the PT, why Lor San Tekka emphasized the importance of the Jedi, and why Luke eventually stated he would not be the last Jedi.

    I had the impression Republic medical facilities did midichlorian testing.
     
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  19. Prax

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    The clone wars shows how the Jedi find new candidates. Once they discover a candidate, they go visit the family and talk with the parents. If the parents agree(and many of them do, as the Jedi are basically worshiped by the masses), the Jedi return at a later date, when the baby has reached a certain age, and bring them back to the temple.

    The midichlorians is simply a way to test if a candidate has the potential to serve in the Jedi order. Everyone in the Star Wars galaxy has midichlorians. They "exist within all living things," but in rare case, there are individuals who have a higher concentration of them.

    The midichlorians as a plot device was a way to explain how the ability to use the force can be hereditary(as in the OT), and how the Jedi maintain their numbers.

    There was also a Darth Plageuis plot thread that was going to be part of Episode I, but was ultimately reserved for Episode 3.

    Also, Qui-Gon tells Schmi that if Anakin had been born in the Republic, he would have been identified and brought to the temple. I think he was trying to comfort her in a way, as she was desperate for her son to have a life better than slavery, but that also tells us that Jedi candidates rarely come from worlds outside of the Republic.
     
  20. JD

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    So the parents would have had the option to say no when they Jedi came for Force sensitive kids? For some reason I remember getting the impression from something I read that parents had to hand all potential Jedi over to the Order.