Is The Disney Company a hoarder that destroys our favorite franchises?

[Campe]

6. As for people having a differnt opinion.. Welcome to Life! there are 7 Billion different opinions in the world right now! Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.. IDIC!! LLAP!

I may have liked, unliked and liked your post. Just so I could like it again. Just for this point.

(Disagree with you on Luke, but that's okay. )

 

[mos6507]

We've reached peak awful posts and it gets better from here, right?

Hope springs eternal...

 

[BillJ]

Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations..

Shouldn't that be Infinite Disney in Infinite Combinations?

 

[Gov Kodos]

Now that would make a fine thread.

Darth Hook

On second thought...

Peter Kenoboy and his little fairy friend Ja Jar Tink.

 

[ichab]

In recent years, they purchased Pixar (Toy Story, Finding Nemo etc.), they purchased LucasFilm (Star Wars, Indiana Jones), they got Marvel (Every movie and comic) and they just got 20th Century Fox and Hulu (which include X-Men and The Orville among many others).

Pixar was purchased at a time they started running out of steam. Their old and most famous franchises had already played out for the most part. The Disney "Pixar" releases (they keep the names of what they consume merely to bait fans that aren't aware their favorite "indie" doesn't exist anymore) seemed more like rehashes for a money grab from old fans and the selling of toys.

Marvel wasn't exactly that but it has some of that element. For the last ~10 years (exactly the number of years Disney is in control), most Marvel movies seem cookie-cutter. It's like watching almost the same movie every single month with small variations. They are not usually terrible but most of the time you end up feeling "haven't I watched that?" and few things stick in your mind for more than 2 months.

Dont care for kids movies so can't speak to the quality of the pixar titles, but I agree with your take on the MCU. IMO most of it was very cookie cutter and very safe with the exception of a few. Endgame was also the endgame for my interest in that universe but we're in small company as far as our opinion on that goes. People love it and more power to them. It's just not my cup of tea anymore.

LucasFilm was purchased at a time Lucas probably had no more ideas. The Star Wars prequels were not totally terrible because at least they were canon and different but the franchise seemed to not be what it used to be. Disney's most major attempts on that franchise was a rehash of A New Hope (Force Awakens), which was cute and comfy but ultimately a shadow of the franchise's old self for a money grab and a movie that was total nonsense in the saga (Last Jedi) since, among other things, they turned a character that refused to give up on Anakin (Luke) to someone that almost killed a child only on the suspicion he would be like Anakin (the polar opposite of what the heart of the saga used to be, hence it was total nonsense).

Disney is really doing nothing different from what George Lucas did as far as milking Star Wars goes. The only real difference is Disney has scaled back on the video games which isn't a bad move considering most of them were garbage.

Now that they just got 20th Century Fox and Hulu, I expect the same treatment for X-Men and The Orville (even though The Orville is more or less a shadow of TNG already). Some milking of old fans without changing the names of parent production companies to fool old fans their favorite franchise isn't consumed by Disney).

Disney appears so obsessed in that trend of milking old franchises until they completely die that they started doing it to their own children. The Lion King 2019 appears to be the milking of an old franchise.

There is also a lot of HYPOCRISY about the entire thing. If you truly want "new", then support NEW franchises, don't milk old ones just because you know the old fans will flock unquestionably.

That means they often destroy old stories to make them "new" but turn them to nonsense because the old story no longer makes sense. It would be best for everyone to make a new franchise entirely, but that wouldn't fool the old fans their franchise still exists intact.

The best alternative for Disney is to do that they always did best: Soft reboots of very old stories that turn comfy but never revolutionary. Hell, that's what they always did, most of their iconic old movies are very old stories soft-rebooted to something comfy.

At the end of the day Disney appears best at the role of someone that takes dying franchises and soft reboots them to something comfy but never truly new. If you want new, better look at new stories entirely, because Disney never was good at that.

At their worst they don't even do that but try to change them to something that doesn't even make sense. That turns them not only weak but also annoying.

Disney, like every other company, cares about making money and at the moment reboots, remakes and continuations of old franchises is, sadly, what is drawing in the big bucks. So they are going to continue buying up properties and trying to monopolize the market until the audience makes a statement with their wallets or the government stops them.

 

[Anwar]

Dont care for kids movies so can't speak to the quality of the pixar titles

Ah, the inevitable close-minded old coot. Was waiting for you.

but I agree with your take on the MCU. IMO most of it was very cookie cutter and very safe

So just like DC and FoX-Men then.

 

[BillJ]

Dont care for kids movies so can't speak to the quality of the pixar titles, but I agree with your take on the MCU. IMO most of it was very cookie cutter and very safe with the exception of a few. Endgame was also the endgame for my interest in that universe but we're in small company as far as our opinion on that goes. People love it and more power to them. It's just not my cup of tea anymore.

I don’t get the love for the MCU, but my wife loves it.

 

[Ithekro]

I really want a new joystick ready Star Wars flight sim game. Its been nearly two decades since X-wing: Alliance came out.

 

[JD]

Dont care for kids movies so can't speak to the quality of the pixar titles, but I agree with your take on the MCU.

You've never seen any of the Pixar movies? At all?

 

[Professor Zoom]

You've never seen any of the Pixar movies? At all?

Which is a shame. As they aren't "kids" movies. They are family movies, ie, they are appropriate for ALL ages. Grown ups can get just as much out of them as kids. And some of them are fucking fantastic works of art.

 

[Skipper]

Dont care for kids movies so can't speak to the quality of the pixar titles,

"Kids movies"..?
You know, after this it's impossible for me reading the rest of your post... Because now I'm thinking about the first 5 minutes of Up and it's a little difficult for me considering it (maybe with a little smug tone) just a "kids movie".

 

[Unicron]

Yeah, Michael Bay can have that effect.

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[Anwar]

"Kids movies"..?
You know, after this it's impossible for me reading the rest of your post... Because now I'm thinking about the first 5 minutes of Up and it's a little difficult for me considering it (maybe with a little smug tone) just a "kids movie".

Back in 2009 some artsy-fartsy critic even tried to condemn Pixar for daring to try to tell stories that could appeal to adults as much as kids.

 

[Booji]

You've never seen any of the Pixar movies? At all?

I never have. I have no interest in computer generated cartoon animation. Absolutely hate the look of it. Only computer generated animation I like is Star wars Resistance style because it looks hand drawn. F that other crap

 

[Gov Kodos]

Back in 2009 some artsy-fartsy critic even tried to condemn Pixar for daring to try to tell stories that could appeal to adults as much as kids.

People like that deserve adulthood.

 

[Professor Zoom]

I never have. I have no interest in computer generated cartoon animation. Absolutely hate the look of it. Only computer generated animation I like is Star wars Resistance style because it looks hand drawn. F that other crap

Missing out on some really good stories.

 

[JD]

Which is a shame. As they aren't "kids" movies. They are family movies, ie, they are appropriate for ALL ages. Grown ups can get just as much out of them as kids. And some of them are fucking fantastic works of art.

"Kids movies"..?
You know, after this it's impossible for me reading the rest of your post... Because now I'm thinking about the first 5 minutes of Up and it's a little difficult for me considering it (maybe with a little smug tone) just a "kids movie".

What they said. I was trying to come up with a way to say this yesterday, but I just couldn't get it to come out quite as clearly as these two did.

 

[Booji]

Missing out on some really good stories.

Yeah, I know. Eventually I'm gonna give The Incredibles a whirl and try to get over my phobia.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Yeah, I know. Eventually I'm gonna give The Incredibles a whirl and try to get over my phobia.

Incredibles is great.
Up is wonderful.
Inside Out is great.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Incredibles is great.
Up is wonderful.
Inside Out is great.

Incredibles is a lot of fun. I don't know how great I'd call it, but that's personal preference.
Up is honestly only worthwhile for the opening sequence. You can turn it off after that and not miss anything decent.
Inside Out is one of the best movies I've ever seen. And a rare film which actually is deeply meaningful to young and old alike and also actually needed to be from a child's perspective to work rather than the traditional we're throwing children's pov characters out there to sell toys.

And while we're giving recommendations, Wall-E is one of my favorite sci-fi movies and still one of the best love stories I've ever seen.