Is the bridge at a funny angle?

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  1. jackoverfull

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    This sequence, when the enterprise goes to warp near the end. And the BtP at warp shots are pretty bad too...
     
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  2. Maurice

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    One time you actually CAN see the port side is in that oft-used orbit shot of the ship heading towards us. It starts with the ship pointed screen left and you can see the undetailed port side briefly—and in the distance—as the ship curves across the screen (making the planet maybe a few thousand feet in diameter if this were and a circular orbit... you'd never perceive it the ship curving in an actual orbit).
     
  3. ZapBrannigan

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    True, but the best look at the lack of port side detail would have to be this one:
    https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x09hd/metamorphosishd1193.jpg

    Like that "Dagger of the Mind" reverse-decal shot, this was also used only once in the series.
     
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    I've always been so dazzled by the nacelles in that shot that I never noticed the secondary hull. Maybe that's why it was only ever used once!
     
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  5. Maurice

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    The only thing you can see of the port side there is the lack of the "box", and maybe you can see one of the cords against the hull.
     
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    Either that or the Enterprise is several hundred miles long! The Enterprise-in-orbit shots were stylizations; I never thought they were meant to be a literal visual representation of a spacecraft orbiting a planet.
     
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  7. F. King Daniel

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    IMHO that awkwardness gives it it's charm.
     
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  8. Maurice

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    In TMP they just had the ship go on a straight line over the Earth (which was much larger in frame) and it looked fine.

    They dollied the camera back from the miniature as far as they could, then they gradually scaled the element on the optical printer, which is why the ship goes from slightly crabbing to full-on crabbing.

    Such scaling is what causes the swooshing ship to do that apparent arc in the season one titles.
     
  9. ZapBrannigan

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    Jumbo jets fly sideways all the time:


    If the fx were good enough to show that it is intentional, I think it would be cool to see the Enterprise sliding into first now and then, skidding to a stop so to speak. Starships probably would fly kitty corner at times if they were real.
     
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    Yep, this is some top-notch writing. :techman:

     
  12. Maurice

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    BTW re when the Enterprise model was modified for series production...

    Datin Petticoat Junction.png
     
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    I did say he could be histrionic. And A-List actors avoided him. The reality was that he was left to his own efforts. By the end of his career he was only trusted to shoot D-level nudey-cuteys like "Orgy of the Dead". Filmmaking is not editing or screenwriting, but rather cinematography and directing, which he actually excelled at. As for his writing, when he died his office was found to have hundreds of unshot screenplays in it that were summarily destroyed. The quality of them was never determined.
     
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    What is that from? And how much more is there about the Cannonball train?
     
  15. Maurice

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    From this (link).

    WE confirmed it off Richard Datin's old website. We posted about it on Fact Trek here (link).
     
  16. Maurice

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    'Cept crosswind landings don't apply to starships. :)
     
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    There it is.
     
  18. ZapBrannigan

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    Meteorology reports ion storm upcoming, Captain!
     
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    There's no reason that a ship's "trim" needs to be orientated to its flight path in space...Maybe the ship was steered at an angle to use its reaction control thrusters in short bursts to attain a standard orbit. The visual would be the ship at a different angle to its flight path with nudges to the flight path to get to the ship in position to coast into orbit on the right side of the planet. Exactly has seen on screen. :vulcan:
     
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