is Stargate dead for good?

Discussion in 'Stargate' started by Temis the Vorta, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. Silvercrest

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    Sorry, couldn't resist. Just having some fun with you. :p
     
  2. MNM

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    Yes. SG-1 was light hearted great fun, had SG:U been done in the style of SG-1, it would not be cancelled now.
     
  3. Lt. Trull

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    ya know.... at least the director said that the SG:Universe sets will remain standing until there is absolutely no hope.... which apparently means there is at least some shread of hope for this series....
     
  4. bigdaddy

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    :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

    There is no hope. This is the normal BS that the TV shows go through "We are shopping it to other channels... blah blah blah". It never leads to anything. Where is SG:U going to go? I think Showtime wants Stargate back, but I doubt they want this show.
     
  5. Admiral Buzzkill

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    I was in college (1972-1976) and then working for a living, son.

    I watched "The Man Trap" the night Trek premiered. I wrote to NBC - yeah, you read about that thing, right, when you were a kid? - to ask them to renew Star Trek for a third year.

    So, shall we play that one-up game again?

    Thought not.

    Now, just because you didn't know a lot of Trek fans in high school has no bearing on the fact that even when Trek was cancelled by NBC tens of millions of people were watching the show every week.

    And of course, in syndication millions of people watched it every day.

    That was what the networks and studio responded to by attempting to resurrect the show - not how fervently you and your few friends in high school believed that it ought to return.

    As I said before, I don't think you get the differences in scale in terms of how commercial TV success was defined in that era and in this one. When only three national broadcast networks dominated the airwaves, it took a lot more devoted weekly viewers to make a show a success - and consequently, a show that was "on the bubble" was holding a lot bigger audience than most shows that CBS, ABC or NBC would consider hits now. On the least popular week of Trek's existence it could have swallowed the Stargate franchise in one gulp and had room for Farscape and Babylon 5 both as dessert.

    You're comparing apples and oranges - okay, apples and raisins.
     
  6. Noname Given

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    Really? There was the Flash Godon animated series and the Buck Rodgers live action series that took and reworked elements of these franchices from the 1930ies (Flash was moved forward to coincde with WWII);(The Buck Rodgers premise was reworked from Gansters taking over, to the world rebuilding after nuclear holocaust)

    So, there's more than just 'Star Trek' as an example.
     
  7. Admiral Buzzkill

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    You're simply talking about examples of a property being revived and reworked after a period of time. We're talking about properties that are cancelled due to failure to hold an audience being resurrected based on a groundswell of demand from a dedicated fandom.

    There were not thousands, much less millions, demanding that Universal bring back Buck Rogers or Flash Gordon.
     
  8. Noname Given

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    fair enough - but as far as Star Trek is concerned, Paramount and NBC had been second guessing the decision of cancellation since they saw the third season demos; and as much as the 'fans' wanted Star Trek revived, I dare say that had Star Wars not been so overwhelming popular and well received by movie going audiences; and then Close Encounters also do well, I really have to wonder how much of a revival Star Trek would have gotten.

    Hell, the examples I showed above were probably onlu greenlight due to Star Wars popularity as all studios scambled to dust off any space based science fiction properties they had.
     
  9. Temis the Vorta

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    Showtime is part of the same conglomerate as CBS - if they want a space opera franchise, they need to put Star Trek on the air. That's got far more cachet now than Stargate has ever had!
     
  10. MANT!

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    Stargate as a franchise is dead, for now..and gladly..

    Space adventure will be revived..sooner rather than later, but it'll take something like Star Wars back in '77 to light the fires on more than a very few series...
     
  11. Tek

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    I just don't see Star Trek ever coming back to the small screen.
     
  12. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Star Trek will be back on TV. May take 10-20 years, but it'll be back.
     
  14. Joel_Kirk

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    I can see StarGate coming back to the big screen. (As much as I like Kurt Russell, I think the Richard Dean Anderson version with Chris Judge, Michael Shanks, and Amanda Tapping would be able to make it to the big screen if done correctly).
     
  15. Admiral Buzzkill

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    I think if they try to mount a big screen remake they'll cast better-known film actors. They might well bring Emmerich back into it to produce. Most of his films are still pretty profitable, even the ones everyone swears are awful. :lol:
     
  16. Robert Maxwell

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    RDA is way too old and out of shape to carry a new SG-1 movie anyhow. They'll probably go the nuTrek route and cast hot young people. :lol:
     
  17. Admiral Buzzkill

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    The more I think about it, the more of a natural this seems for a big-screen reinvention.

    • The first version was almost a generation ago.
    • No single famous actor or group of actors is so closely associated with it that recasting would be controversial (that is, no Harrison Ford).
    • It's an action/adventure property, potentially long on visual effects. Perfect Summer movie fare.
    • The trademark is well-known, and belongs to a financially troubled studio that could really use a tentpole film franchise.
    • The original producers are still active and successful in the business and have expressed interest in revisiting it.

    And you know that wormhole is gonna look great in 3D! :techman:
     
  18. Saga

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    throw in a wise cracking robot with boobs and you've got a summer blockbuster! :p
     
  19. Unionized Elf

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    Or a dirty talking robot that makes fun of the guys for having small dicks.

    Teal'c: "This Ancient text is too small for me to decipher, Daniel Jackson."
    Robot: "That's what she said."
     
  20. Admiral Buzzkill

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    I wonder...but I don't suppose Emmerich would carry over characters or continuity from the TV shows - so no Carter, no Teal'c or Tokra, etc.

    They'd just revisit the original story, probably extend it and set up the whole thing for endless sequels.

    Still, they'd be looking to create a signficant female character as one of the core cast.