You posted the link to those reviews citing it as evidence that XI is fantabulous!!! So I looked over a few and I found them lacking. I like more comprehensive reviews not a synopsis. And the sections I chose to mention were highlighting why I don't put much weight into your holding up rotten tomatoes to bolster your position.
No, I'm not your typical fanboy/fangirl who needs to connect with critics or JJ Abrams. You won't see me posting an open letter.
I may be playing the devil's advocate here. But I got the feeling that a lot of Trek fans, including me, at some point, are overhyping the movie in desperation.
A lot of us, thought or at least worried, that Star Trek as a TV/Movie franchise was now death for a couple of years. Enterprise didn't have the same commercial success than preceding series, while the recent movies didn't either. Star Trek have been around almost every year since 1987, its incredible in television history. It felt realistic to expect tptb (executives) to put Star Trek to rest for a couple of years. Maybe even something like 10, 15 or 20 years.
Now here come the big surprise. They announce a new Star Trek movie, headed by a director on the rise (JJ Abrams). Already at that point its beyond our wildest dreams. Its not about the quality of the product anymore, its about the survival of our beloved franchise. We don't mind if Star Trek have become only a brainless action blockbuster movie anymore. Average Trek is better than no Trek. Sure the movie have many faults, but we dont care. Star Trek is alive and its a commercial success!
Is it the right signal to send? Thats is Average Trek is better than no Trek.
I must admit that somehow I feel the same way. The franchise needed a commercial success at that point. But I got another signal to send. Now that the introduction of the rebooted characters is over. I wish the next Trek movie will have a stronger storyline.
I may be playing the devil's advocate here. But I got the feeling that a lot of Trek fans, including me, at some point, are overhyping the movie in desperation.
A lot of us, thought or at least worried, that Star Trek as a TV/Movie franchise was now death for a couple of years. Enterprise didn't have the same commercial success than preceding series, while the recent movies didn't either. Star Trek have been around almost every year since 1987, its incredible in television history. It felt realistic to expect tptb (executives) to put Star Trek to rest for a couple of years. Maybe even something like 10, 15 or 20 years.
Now here come the big surprise. They announce a new Star Trek movie, headed by a director on the rise (JJ Abrams). Already at that point its beyond our wildest dreams. Its not about the quality of the product anymore, its about the survival of our beloved franchise. We don't mind if Star Trek have become only a brainless action blockbuster movie anymore. Average Trek is better than no Trek. Sure the movie have many faults, but we dont care. Star Trek is alive and its a commercial success!
Is it the right signal to send? Thats is Average Trek is better than no Trek.
I must admit that somehow I feel the same way. The franchise needed a commercial success at that point. But I got another signal to send. Now that the introduction of the rebooted characters is over. I wish the next Trek movie will have a stronger storyline.
yes, it seems that Trek fans no longer want quality...just style over substance. This ST movie is all MTV for the Nexted generation.
While I disagree with Vagando's post and find it needlessly offensive, I consider the monster chase to be a far more worthless piece of action time-wasting than Nemesis's ridiculous dune buggy chase.
Hmm.
You know that at this point "MTV" would be "your father's 'Star Trek'," don't you?
There are so many of those kinds of references being thrown around - "MTV", "90210" - that some posters are, in the very attempt to denigrate the movie by suggesting that it's aimed at thoughtless young people, actually revealing that they're at least a decade out of touch with who the young people are and what interests them.
It's hard to be an astute social critic and observer when you're not really observing much at all.
Hmm.
You know that at this point "MTV" would be "your father's 'Star Trek'," don't you?
There are so many of those kinds of references being thrown around - "MTV", "90210" - that some posters are, in the very attempt to denigrate the movie by suggesting that it's aimed at thoughtless young people, actually revealing that they're at least a decade out of touch with who the young people are and what interests them.
It's hard to be an astute social critic and observer when you're not really observing much at all.
I may be playing the devil's advocate here. But I got the feeling that a lot of Trek fans, including me, at some point, are overhyping the movie in desperation.
A lot of us, thought or at least worried, that Star Trek as a TV/Movie franchise was now death for a couple of years. Enterprise didn't have the same commercial success than preceding series, while the recent movies didn't either. Star Trek have been around almost every year since 1987, its incredible in television history. It felt realistic to expect tptb (executives) to put Star Trek to rest for a couple of years. Maybe even something like 10, 15 or 20 years.
Now here come the big surprise. They announce a new Star Trek movie, headed by a director on the rise (JJ Abrams). Already at that point its beyond our wildest dreams. Its not about the quality of the product anymore, its about the survival of our beloved franchise. We don't mind if Star Trek have become only a brainless action blockbuster movie anymore. Average Trek is better than no Trek. Sure the movie have many faults, but we dont care. Star Trek is alive and its a commercial success!
Is it the right signal to send? Thats is Average Trek is better than no Trek.
I must admit that somehow I feel the same way. The franchise needed a commercial success at that point. But I got another signal to send. Now that the introduction of the rebooted characters is over. I wish the next Trek movie will have a stronger storyline.
yes, it seems that Trek fans no longer want quality...just style over substance. This ST movie is all MTV for the Nexted generation.
Star Trek fan since I was 4 (I'm 29 now). Got hooked on the original series, the one with all of the colors because of color television's burgeoning popularity, the show with all of the awesome special effects and the costly budget to produce said effects of the day. "Spock's Brain", "The Trouble With Tribbles", "Arena", "A Piece of the Action", "All Our Yesterdays", "The Alternative Factor", "Court Martial", "Where No Man Has Gone Before", "Shore Leave", "This Side of Paradise", all of these elements can be found in the new movie.
You know, I'm not usually a style over substance man. Have you ever seen the movie "The Man From Earth"? The entire movie takes place, essentially, in one room, amongst a group of people. I love that movie, yet it is all substance, and nicely done I might add. It is one of my top 10 favorites, so no, I'm no MTV bobblehead, I'm not a "pretty lights and no story man". Your blanket generalization is filled with many holes, I'd wager, because many of the good people here on this board are like me, and they loved the movie also, but your comment is exactly the kind that indicates no forethought into what it really means, and instead casts aspersions on those you disagree with, simply because you disagree with them.
J.
