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Is SNW getting too goofy?

I love the show and also like how it doesn't take Trek to seriously like dome fans do. But, with the crossover (admittedly have not seen it yet) and the music episode is it getting too goofy?

With Picard and Discovery over and almost over, I think P+ is going to make SNW their main ST show. I like fun Trek but the music episode may be too much.

Saying that, I did love the Scrubs music episodes, but that was a comedy.

Also there are 10 episodes a season only. I could see it more with 16 plus episodes a season. They had a terrible episode last season (in my opinion) with the fairy tale one. I love the show, but IMO that was the worst NuTrek episode.

Thoughts?
Nope, it's doing just great, as far as I'm concerned.
 
I would have given a different answer a few months ago.

My point is, there is a choice. You can keep to the framework you've constructed of what Trek is or "ought" to be and judge SNW against it, or you can reset and attempt to watch the show with fresh eyes. Judge it for what it is and what it means to be, not for what it clearly has no interest in being.

It's fine if SNW is not your cup of tea, but it isn't doing anything wrong. I think the show has the strongest sense of identity and direction of any Trek show since TOS (at least this early in its run).

Drop the baggage and you might surprise yourself.
 
Lower Decks was always supposed to be Trek's Beavis and Butthead or South Park or raunchy "adult" shows along that line (personally I find those more juvenile than adult, but whatever). These shows sell. It's a specific brand of humor that a lot of people obviously like, but before this week fans who didn't prefer it could sort of compartmentalize SNW and LD as separate things and skip LD entirely (which I did after giving it a fair chance for 4.5 episodes).

Then the showrunners went all in on that for the SNW/LD crossover, and that's their right too. I think it's brought out vicious debates because LD is a love it/hate it thing. There's not a lot of in-between. Even Jar-Jar Binks has a lot of SW fans that sort of just accept he's there, and when Jar-Jar did show up in shows like the Clone Wars (or even have entire episodes revolving around him), his more excessive elements were toned down (for example, Jar-Jar did a much better job at keeping his cover posing as Boss Lyonie in front of Grievous for most of TCW episode 'Shadow Warrior', while Boimler couldn't even maintain his boundaries on the Temporal Prime Directive for a few minutes). Even when Jar Jar was paired with Mace Windu in TCW Season 6, Jar-Jar fared well enough that even Mace admitted, "Wesa won" at the end.

Boimler is the punch guy of the jokes, everyone looks down on him, and Pike condescendingly told him he's going to the brig and then a starbase to "be someone else's problem". Maybe people like beating up on the outcast or the one out of place and find that funny, and going by the tone of these boards I can already tell those types of people. I don't find it funny.

If one were to judge from this, one would reasonably conclude that you know very little about these shows and in fact don't know what you're talking about in these instances.

You have provided numerous examples in this forum of what you do consider funny, or at least clever, and they are not really strong arguments for your point of view.
 
Lower Decks was always supposed to be Trek's Beavis and Butthead or South Park or raunchy "adult" shows along that line (personally I find those more juvenile than adult, but whatever). These shows sell. It's a specific brand of humor that a lot of people obviously like, but before this week fans who didn't prefer it could sort of compartmentalize SNW and LD as separate things and skip LD entirely (which I did after giving it a fair chance for 4.5 episodes).

Lower Decks is nothing like those shows you mentioned and other than some brief moments (and other Trek shows have had these too) there isn't much "raunchy" about it. Lower Decks has the heart that most Trek has always had. It's about friendship, it's about team work, it's about working together. It's about comedy, it's about not taking itself too seriously, it's about Star Trek.
 
If one were to judge from this, one would reasonably conclude that you know very little about these shows and in fact don't know what you're talking about in these instances.

You have provided numerous examples in this forum of what you do consider funny, or at least clever, and they are not really strong arguments for your point of view.

Agreed. Lower Decks is nothing like those shows. It's like saying Discovery is trying to be like Pulp Fiction because it has some "F" bombs.
 
I think we really need something like DS9 Star Trek series.

Star Trek Picard season 3 was that but now it's over.

Now we gonna have:

Star Trek Strange New Worlds

Star Trek Lower Decks

Star Trek Prodigy

Star Trek Starfleet Academy

All of four show are mostly for kids and teenagers. We need something more serious like Star Trek Picard season 3 was and like DS9 was in the 90s.
Looks at birth date.
Nope.
 
I love the show and also like how it doesn't take Trek to seriously like dome fans do. But, with the crossover (admittedly have not seen it yet) and the music episode is it getting too goofy?

With Picard and Discovery over and almost over, I think P+ is going to make SNW their main ST show. I like fun Trek but the music episode may be too much.

Saying that, I did love the Scrubs music episodes, but that was a comedy.

Also there are 10 episodes a season only. I could see it more with 16 plus episodes a season. They had a terrible episode last season (in my opinion) with the fairy tale one. I love the show, but IMO that was the worst NuTrek episode.

Thoughts?

No. Actually with the end of Season 1 and the beginning of Season 2 I was worried it might be getting too dark and gritty. Star Trek has been serious in various degrees over the years, but the more lighthearted the better. This is escapism fiction for me at it's finest, and as such has to be a shining beacon of optimism to distract me from the horrors of reality. It's why I never could get into DS9; it felt too close to home with its inherent darkness. But I digress. Strange New Worlds is a show I waited my entire 34 year long life to see, and it's my favorite Star Trek yet. :)
 
I gotta say, this is getting to Star Wars levels of no one hating Star Trek as much as the 'fans' do.

Too goofy? Strange New Worlds has managed to fully embody the fun and drama of TOS without any of the stage-acting artifice of 90's Trek. Hell, it's probably the most true to what Trek was in the 60's since Trek '09.
 
I think we really need something like DS9 Star Trek series.

Star Trek Picard season 3 was that but now it's over.

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