Poll Is reset coming?

[eschaton]

Having a De facto time machine built into the spore drive, a spare Georgiou and two Klingons providing intel on what happened at the battle qualifies as hints towards the reset. They just have to Prisoner of Azkaban it...which they can do. Empress goes and dies in phillipas place (which is fine, because if she does, she will never have been deposed in the first place, so she’s just a splinter from an unused future.) or replaces Phillipa in the walking out of the ready room scene and opens fire. Burnham knocked out Phillipa remember?
Or they go right back, and replace Michael in environmental suit with herself and she....takes the hand of the torchbearer rather than kills him.
And she does it all, and then meets the ‘real’ ash Tyler, giving everyone their lives back. (The big themes are all about not being true to yourself because of an overlaid aspect...Vulcan conditioning on a human, Human on a Klingon, mirror on Prime, Prime on Mirror....and Alice has to wake up and realise it was all a dream.)

Now...the existence of season 2 muddies that, but I would bet that was the original arc.
It will echo the ‘lets Try this again, i’m Michael burnham’ scene in the cafeteria.

Yeah. They have the means for a TL reset now (working spore drive fully stocked, Stamets isn't sick) and good motivation for a reset if they think they can use it to avert the war entirely and stop countless casualties. Given how this series shows the multiverse to work, there's no real reason to think that the Discovery would have to cease to exist either - it could just have considered to have slid into a slightly alternate universe from where it came from.

The only solid evidence that it's not going to happen, IMHO, is the spore that fell on Tilly, and the discussion on After Trek that it will be addressed in Season 2. But as long as "our Discovery" survives (whether that means duplicates of everyone running around or shifting into another universe) they could still follow up on it.

But more broadly, the reasons to not "reboot" basically have to do with things "outside the show" rather than the internal logic from the show. From a character perspective, if you were Stamets, wouldn't you go back in time to fix everything - even ensuring that your love would still be alive?

 

[eschaton]

They've had what ? 2 years to lay this story out, They have known all along that the first season of DSC would be one season long arc telling a story from Trek history that's often been hinted at but never shown.

If they do choose to dust off the reset button next week it would be the biggest letdown since the Lost finale.
It can't happen.

The destruction of ( what looks like) Qu'onos could be explained away quite easily. It's not Qu'onos, It's mirror Qu'onos, it's one of Stamets visions of the future if The Emperor gets her way.

Supposedly the plan was always that if Discovery was a success (by whatever measures CBS was using to track it) they were going to do another season. If it was a failure, they were planning on doing a "reboot" with a whole new ship and cast as Fuller originally wanted. That being the case, they probably left their endgame open to allow for either a "finality" to the closing episodes or a continuance of characters.

 

[eschaton]

Broadly, we have to distinguish that there are four possible resets here:

1. Discovery jumps back nine months to when it vanished from the PU and gives cloaking frequencies. Federation wins the war, no concern with duplicates, everyone remembered what happens. IMHO this is the most likely, but also the most disappointing, because we got jerked around for nothing for two episodes when they could have just gotten home properly.

2. Discovery jumps back to before the BotBS and tries to avert the start of the war - and mostly succeeds. "Our" Discovery stays intact, but it ends up being a weird situation because the cast who survive till the end of the episode all have duplicates also in Starfleet.

3. Same as the above, but the Discovery ceases to exist due to a temporal paradox. However, Stamets remembers (because he's now part spore god) and Burnham remembers (because she's Very Special).

4. Same as the above, but no one remembers. Hardest reset of all, and all character development is erased.

 

[JasonJ]

Having a De facto time machine built into the spore drive, a spare Georgiou and two Klingons providing intel on what happened at the battle qualifies as hints towards the reset. They just have to Prisoner of Azkaban it...which they can do. Empress goes and dies in phillipas place (which is fine, because if she does, she will never have been deposed in the first place, so she’s just a splinter from an unused future.) or replaces Phillipa in the walking out of the ready room scene and opens fire. Burnham knocked out Phillipa remember?
Or they go right back, and replace Michael in environmental suit with herself and she....takes the hand of the torchbearer rather than kills him.
And she does it all, and then meets the ‘real’ ash Tyler, giving everyone their lives back. (The big themes are all about not being true to yourself because of an overlaid aspect...Vulcan conditioning on a human, Human on a Klingon, mirror on Prime, Prime on Mirror....and Alice has to wake up and realise it was all a dream.)

Now...the existence of season 2 muddies that, but I would bet that was the original arc.
It will echo the ‘lets Try this again, i’m Michael burnham’ scene in the cafeteria.

This, I can see this.. they are going to tie the Alice themes in here somehow.. they didn't mention it for no reason. I can see it playing out such that they'll show us that we've already seen future/MU versions of the cast past episodes, like Capt. Georgiou coming out of the ready room after being seemingly knocked out seconds earlier... we just wouldn't have known it at the time.

 

[Nyotarules]

Admiral Cornwall - 'The Klingons are on the verge of wiping out the Federation'
So that tells me 80% of Federation space is under Klingon rule and only the Sol system is last system standing which means Andor, Vulcan, Tellar the other big guns have been taken over. Since this never happened in Prime history apart from Yesterday's Enterprise then this is either not the Prime universe or there is going to be a hell of a reset.
Sigh this better be good, the writers have backed themselves into a corner or they think the viewers are stupid or both.

 

[Campe]

I think the entire premise of the series is wrapped around the Mycelial Network. Now we know that the ship can travel through space AND time throughout the entire multiverse, I'm betting that's what we'll see going forward. The Klingon War was just a set-up. And not that I give the slightest care, but that might just mean that the first fifteen episodes were in an alternate universe. Great! It opens up the possibilities beyond being married to canon. So yeah, maybe they do blow up Quo'nos. Maybe there is a reset of sorts. Maybe not. The truth is...

All I know is we still haven't seen the classic-esque costumes that reporters said they saw on a set tour. I imagine we'll see them one way or another in the final hour of this season.

 

[Mr Awe]

There's no way a reset is coming. The writers have gone to too much work building up in story developments to throw all of that away. I think they'll resolve the Klingon war and then move in a different direction. No reset button and that's a great thing!

 

[Shinzonfan]

A possible hard reset could have them somehow unintentionally jumping back to when Burnham's parents were killed and preventing that from happening. At that point Discovery disappears because of altered time line going forward.

Burnham, not being raised by Vulcans grows up as a normal human without all the repressed emotional baggage. Still very smart, still very capable but as a normal human being.

Cut to the beginning of the battle of the binary stars. A star ship arrives on the scene to investigate, but it isn't The Shenzhou, it's the Discovery. Cut to scene on Discovery bridge, and there she is... Michael Burnham, Captain of Discovery. She makes all the right decisions and averts the war.

Season two starts and she is where she should have been from the beginning, with a fresh start to win the affections of the fans like me who couldn't accept her as a junior officer mutineer.

Spor drive never happens because Stamets chose a different career path. Went into Horticulture growing magic mushrooms, which he sells to Harry Mudd who makes a fortune trading with the Klingons. Klingons become potheads, grow their hair and get really well tanned.

 

[ITDUDE]

^^ I'll take that. At this point, I'll definitely take that.

 

[Longinus]

The season has been an utter mess, so in that sense I'd welcome a reset. Whether that would actually happen I don't know. The writing has been so bonkers thus far that I think pretty much anything can happen, whether it makes any sense or not.

Most sensible reset would be a time travel averting the war, in away that the Disco crew (or at least the key characters) would still remember what originally happened. That way the universe could be reset without nullifying the character progression.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I for one welcome our reset overlords.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Spor drive never happens because Stamets chose a different career path.

And what about his friend Straal?

 

[Tuskin38]

or there is going to be a hell of a reset.

I don't think 9 months would be 'a hell of a reset' since the crew and us, the viewers, never experienced those events.

 

[USS Excelsior]

Actually a reset won’t be necessary since the whole show is actually taking place on the holodeck as a holonovel that someone wrote. The question is which one of the characters is a real person playing a character in it.

 

[picardjean-luc]

Actually a reset won’t be necessary since the whole show is actually taking place on the holodeck as a holonovel that someone wrote. The question is which one of the characters is a real person playing a character in it.

And when the holonovel is over, we'll see Riker emerging out of the holodeck with Troi. Apparently the entire series is based upon Riker's trying to decide whether he should leave USS Enterprise-E to become the Captain of the USS Titan .

 

[eschaton]

And when the holonovel is over, we'll see Riker emerging out of the holodeck with Troi. Apparently the entire series is based upon Riker's trying to decide whether he should leave USS Enterprise-E to become the Captain of the USS Titan .

Every non-TNG Trek series is a Riker holodeck simulation. Even TOS.

 

[AndorianAle]

 

[Lord Garth]

Every non-TNG Trek series is a Riker holodeck simulation. Even TOS.

Sadly I'm of the age where a lot of my friends would love this because, to them, Star Trek basically begins and ends with TNG.

 

[picardjean-luc]

Sadly I'm of the age where a lot of my friends would love this because, to them, Star Trek basically begins and ends with TNG.

I'm sure many of them enjoy watching "The Orville" now .

 

[JasonJ]

I'm sure many of them enjoy watching "The Orville" now .

Well yeah, it's the best Trek on TV at the moment!