Is mankind ARROGANT?
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Non-Trekkie Trekkie
Captain
So there's still a chance there are little green men visiting us? I'd like to think so.
I think mankind is arrogant in assuming that all life has to be similar to itself. It could very well be that stars are life-forms in their own way--they are born, they live for awhile, and then they die too.
In that capacity, our Universe is overflowing with life...
In that capacity, our Universe is overflowing with life...
To the OP :
My personal opinion is that mankind knows less than 0.01% on a universal scale (and that's being generous).
We just started to develop on a more technological level over the past 150 years and people think that qualifies us to make any kind of universal statements ?
I beg to differ.
Look at how humanity behaves today on a global scale.
They still kill each other for reasons such as resources or land and bigotry in numerous forms still exists.
We are supposed to have highly educated/civilized people in the government ... but when I look at numerous countries (including my own) and their governments, I see adults who hold powerful positions and are effectively behaving like children.
When you have a highly educated individual who is a very respected medical doctor proclaim on TV that the Bible is the only good medical textbook, I have to question the guys intelligence ... not to mention the intelligence of many others in our society that took what he said as fact.
Stupidity at it's best (or at least one of the prime examples).
We had men on the moon decades ago and the government that accomplished that feat to this day uses outdated equipment (which also resulted in deaths of several astronauts).
What primarily bugs me is that numerous people proclaim how something is impossible simply because we can't do it (today).
Excuse me, but with that kind of attitude, we might as well stop inventing things entirely, stick to old scientific theories while not trying anything new.
Just look at how religion stagnated worlds development in the past.
That coming from people who preferred to live in ignorance instead of embracing new ideas because of the fear everything they thought is the truth would shatter and that their own power over others will diminish.
That's real life for you.
Humanity does have redeeming qualities though.
Problem is that we have idiots and morons for people in power (admittedly though not ALL of them are like that).
My personal opinion is that mankind knows less than 0.01% on a universal scale (and that's being generous).
We just started to develop on a more technological level over the past 150 years and people think that qualifies us to make any kind of universal statements ?
I beg to differ.
Look at how humanity behaves today on a global scale.
They still kill each other for reasons such as resources or land and bigotry in numerous forms still exists.
We are supposed to have highly educated/civilized people in the government ... but when I look at numerous countries (including my own) and their governments, I see adults who hold powerful positions and are effectively behaving like children.
When you have a highly educated individual who is a very respected medical doctor proclaim on TV that the Bible is the only good medical textbook, I have to question the guys intelligence ... not to mention the intelligence of many others in our society that took what he said as fact.
Stupidity at it's best (or at least one of the prime examples).
We had men on the moon decades ago and the government that accomplished that feat to this day uses outdated equipment (which also resulted in deaths of several astronauts).
What primarily bugs me is that numerous people proclaim how something is impossible simply because we can't do it (today).
Excuse me, but with that kind of attitude, we might as well stop inventing things entirely, stick to old scientific theories while not trying anything new.
Just look at how religion stagnated worlds development in the past.
That coming from people who preferred to live in ignorance instead of embracing new ideas because of the fear everything they thought is the truth would shatter and that their own power over others will diminish.
That's real life for you.
Humanity does have redeeming qualities though.
Problem is that we have idiots and morons for people in power (admittedly though not ALL of them are like that).
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
Thats just what the arrogant, selfish, greedy, cruel, lazy and stupid humans say in order to make themselves feel better about themselves.
Well, I've come to terms with the fact that humankind is very arrogant. Star Trek is an example in many, many ways (i.e. Starfleet Academy and UFP Headquarters are on Earth). And about the theories, if we just believe the most logical explanations with the most credible evidence, that's the best we can do at the moment IMO.
One more thing, I don't know if anybody counts present -> future as time travel, but doesn't Relativity say that time dilation occurs when one is approaching the speed of light. This would mean that if it was possible to approach the speed of light at even an extremely small fraction, there would be some significant time differential. Does that make any sense, keep in mind I'm working from High School Physics level thinking?
One more thing, I don't know if anybody counts present -> future as time travel, but doesn't Relativity say that time dilation occurs when one is approaching the speed of light. This would mean that if it was possible to approach the speed of light at even an extremely small fraction, there would be some significant time differential. Does that make any sense, keep in mind I'm working from High School Physics level thinking?
monetteman
Lieutenant Junior Grade
You fail to realize the power of this fully operational station.
Using any technology that we know of or can currently postulate with our current understanding of physics, FTL travel is impossible. Is it possible that we might some day find a "new" physics or harness technologies that allow wormholes or substitutes for FTL travel to occur so that we could travel light years across the cosmos? I wouldn't say it was impossible, but it would be nothing more than speculative fiction and wishful thinking at the moment. You'd never find a physicist who would categorically speculate on mankind's technological state in the year 10,000 AD for example. There's nothing wrong with that, science is about discovering new things, and I've no doubt that any physicist in the world would love to discover something as profound as a way to travel FTL or to discover something akin to "subspace" or "hyperspace".
But as far as accelerating a physical object with mass in real space to the speed of light or beyond using any kind of force reaction drive goes, that's impossible.
But as far as accelerating a physical object with mass in real space to the speed of light or beyond using any kind of force reaction drive goes, that's impossible.
RobertScorpio
Pariah
Well put FordSVT. Well put indeed. One can only wonder what our future holds. Suriving these next fifty years will be a miracle it seems to me.
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